• Jhex@lemmy.world
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    War is basically inevitable at this point

    Whatever your stance on the Pedophile Felon President, basically all of his policies are inevitable going to destroy the economy of the USA. Once that happens, the only option would be to use force internally to control the people and internationally to literally steal what they need to stay afloat

    The people of the USA are still deluding themselves that their military will be loyal to the people because they didn’t march super well for the Rapist in Chief that day… ignoring the military has followed every single idiotic order to date without as much as a follow up question

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    i feel this whole clock thing is such a liberal jerk off grounded in idealism not materialism. theyve been edging on 89 seconds to midnight since 2024.

    i remember them moving the clock forward when north korea did some missile test a long time ago, as if north korea are the global aggressors 🙄. and of course it was 7 minutes to midnight during the cuban missile crisis.

    trump threatening war on like 5 different countries is worrying, but i feel its mostly just MIC stock manipulation.

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      My suspicion is that the clock accelerated significantly because of climate change. Even if we don’t nuke each other, climate change is a slow burn, self-inflicted destruction by humans. Either way, both scenarios lead to a hot extinction.

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      Climate change won’t end the world, though that isn’t to say it won’t make things hell on earth. Nuclear war however could very well end all life on earth.

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        Life would still exist. I don’t think there is anything humanity could do that would completely end life. There is life living tens of kilometers underground in the lithosphere and life in such remote caves that have been separated from all other environments for millions of years.

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    Honestly? Not very.

    I grew up in the 1980’s doing duck-and-cover drills in school until the Berlin Wall came down. Growing up a science nerd who practically lived at the library, it was pretty obvious that duck-and-cover would do jack-and-shit if anybody ever pressed the big red button. So, I had to come to terms with the possibility that somebody might nuke where I grew up, probably far too early than was good for my mental health.

    What it comes down to is this: In the unlikely event that somebody pops off a nuclear weapon, there is precisely dick that you, I, or anybody else likely to read this thread could do about it. It’s way above any of our pay grades, to steal a phrase. The only thing you can really do is take heart in the fact that there is nothing you did to cause it and nothing you can do to stop it, just like a solar flare or a gamma ray burst. The best you can hope for is that you’re somewhere in the first two blast radii because the most likely outcome is a bright flash, and that’ll be that. No suffering, no radiation sickness, no cancer eating you alive months to years later.

    I get that’s not the kind of response you’re looking for, and I can’t blame you for that. However, neither am I willing to lie. Nuclear war is possibly one of the most horrible things the human race is capable of, and there is no happy medium, nothing reassuring, nothing hopeful that can be said.

    Hug your loved ones.

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    The people who have the power to burn it all down are unstable. I am concerned, but helpless.

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    I’ve been watching this clock for 40 years, also watched it get enshitified the last 20 years.

    It has always been a symbol of empire, run by many the same fools who enabled the madness. But the revolving door and who contributes got worse since the 1990s. And it’s just some thing now.

    They may be wrong or correct, who am I to know. But not to be relied on, I think

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    And this is well before Trump’s announcement of nuclear testing resumption.

    If he actually goes through with it, everyone will know because it shows up on seismographs, something he’s apparently ignorant of… And the comission will surely move it closer.


    I am extremely concerned. There’s never been somone so unscientifically minded, with no one knowledgable on nuclear warfare advising him directly, with their finger on the button like this.

    And what’s annoying is that my relatives do not care. Even the scientifically minded ones. There is absolutely nothing Trump can do wrong, at least nothing that can get through without being warped and dismissed as hysteria. That in itself is scary, as there’s now no “political fallout” check on Trump’s actions until 401Ks literally evaporate.

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    If I see a mushroom cloud I’m running towards it. No need to go to work, no need to pay back mortgage.

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    It’s a real concern, but Ukraine war is proceeding to its just conclusion. EU will accept it better than they let on. It’s expected that world will allow US war on Venezuela without any compassion, just weapons profits. Because resisting US through proxy war is more profitable than sinking its air carrier battle group, through nuclear strike/torpedo, there is less risk of doomsday than 1-2 years ago. Europe will try to get nuked though.

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      Ukraine war is proceeding to its just conclusion

      A million dead on both sides and a Ukraine that is never safe within our lives while Russian billionaires make bank and Ukrainian billionaires join Juan Guiado and Jair Bolsonaro in Miami is hardly justice.

      Hell it’s not even a conclusion.