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    25 days ago

    I literally don’t care about the Hunter pardon. Trump pardoned Russian spies. I think pardoning a child for a dumb drug offence is fine. 🤷‍♂️

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      I care that he’s not pardoning people in immigration detention. Instead he just pardons his crackhead son and leaves.

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        Yup he could on the way out make dreamers and none criminal migrant citizens but nope. Remember it’s a small club and we ain’t in it. Also shows Democratic leadership is happy with any outcome of elections because they still come out on top regardless. Did Nancy Pelosi’s or Obama’s life become more difficult because of the election? Nope. Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are still going to get their beachfront Villas in Gaza. So they never really try to win.

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      I love how libs are utterly incapable of discussing things without using Trump for framing. He’s also not pardoning drug offenses, he’s pardoning the whole Burisma thing which is at the very least a FARA violation. That’s why the pardon is sweeping from the start of 2014.

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        His son is hardly a child at 54 years old.

        I’m sure parents always will see their children as children, no matter their age.

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          I’m specifically talking about the silly framing of “a child” rather than “his child”

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        Going back three decades when everyone thought a “war on drugs” would be a good idea is also lazy to bring into this conversation. As President, Biden freed more victims of that war than all other presidents

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          1. Biden sponsored the crime bill that put those people behind bars in the first place.

          2. Biden abused his powers to pardon his son for crimes that other people will remain in prison for. Crimes that are more severely punished because of Biden.

          Its actually quite relevant to the conversation

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              Abused his power?

              Yes, I would say that pardoning your own son as president is a conflict of interest, unethical, and an abuse of power. It demonstrates that Hunter is above the laws that Joe Biden helped architect. I’m surprised that this sentiment is so controversial.

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      All drugs should be legal.

      We all know humanity will refuse to unclench our collective butthole regarding capitalism during our lives. At least let us get high as fuck on whatever we want while we wage slave to barely make it.

      Perhaps it’s more about the working class suffering then it is about money and power. Remarkable if that’s true.

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      That is very cute but any time you start talking about Russian spies republicans can now say Hunter Biden. What you meant to say is you only care when Trump does it.

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        Who gives a fuck about what the republicans or democrats say anymore? They’re all corrupt rich people who are full of shit and don’t give a fuck about you and never did.

        Oh no! The two pro capitalist pro imperialist parties are trading barbs about dumb shit!

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            Thanks. I respect what biden did for his son because the republicans would do (have done?) the same shit.

            What I don’t respect is the endless wars of imperialism, the genocide, the handing over power peacefully to overt fascists, and biden not doing a single fucking thing while he’s a lame duck to protect us from the incoming government.

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              I do not respect what Biden did for his son because Biden did not do the same thing for every other person who suffered from republican (and democrat) policies. Primarily black inmates including those who suffered false trials.

              Joe Biden did not save Marcellus Williams who was actually innocent.

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                The only reason I have respect for it is because for once democrats aren’t the party of piety and taking the high road. It’s actually a bit refreshing seeing them muck around in the mud.

                You’re totally right though. A whole lot of people should be getting pardoned for the drug war biden himself was responsible for condoning as a senator for decades. But then how would the prisons and those who contract with them for slave labor profit? Will anyone think of the poor investors?

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              What can he even do, short of doing the exact same thing Trump did on Jan 6th and essentially starting off open, armed conflict? Anything he tries to pass now will be immediately thrown out after Jan 20th. Increase SCOTUS seats? GOP will either just undo it or add even more to counteract it. He can’t make new laws, he can only do executive orders, which Trump can easily undo. So again, that leaves only violence, and we all know that won’t play out well, since that’d pretty much require Biden to kill off enough politicians, including Trump and Vance, to give the Democrats the majority in both the House and Senate. Outside of being unlikely, that sets a really dangerous precedent that would definitely backfire down the road.

              Bottom line is that politicians aren’t going to fix this, since the root of the problem lies within the electorate.

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                The root of the problem is capitalism and imperialism, and the only way out at this point is a general wildcat strike and then violence. This country will never unify under labor power so violence it is.

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                  I’d argue it’s capitalism without guardrails for consumer and worker protections that’s more problematic than capitalism itself. Just like with socialism, if it isn’t implemented and/or continually protected correctly, it eventually spirals into degeneracy.

                  And I’d like for society to avoid violence as much as possible. Anyone that throws that out as an option without heavy hesitation are those that haven’t experienced the horrors of open warfare/ violence at scale.

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                    I’m not saying I support it, I’m saying that’s what’s going to happen. We’ve had numerous options for off ramps from this hot mess but the democrats block any kind of left wing legislation and improvement of people’s lives. They’re frauds who protect their class interests above all else. They’re not gonna do shit about fascism.

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                    Capitalism with guardrails and protections just hasn’t advanced to late stage yet. It is a temporary state.

                    See the repeal of glass steagall act in 1999. Yes in 1933 when the act was originally passed, guardrails were implemented. Guess what, they got removed.

                    Reforming capitalism is a temporary measure. Externalizing the consequences of capitalism to future generations.

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                I would say at least the good portion of blame falls on our voting and economic system. We did not create the systems that oppress us, that would be the 1%.

                Perhaps this is why slave rapist Thomas Jefferson said “God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion”.

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        I would say that the issue is not who is doing the pardoning but who is being pardoned. There’s a clear difference between Hunter being pardoned and Russian assets being pardoned.

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        any time you start talking about Russian spies republicans can now say Hunter Biden

        Damn. Then I guess they win. All the Liz Cheneys in the world won’t be able to beat them