The hell is a USian?
Citizen of the United States
There are two United States.
Also, Dude, American is not the preferred nomenclature. USian, please.
Jeez, Davel, I’m not talking about the guys who expelled the fucking British empire from their tyrannical petite bourgeoisie slave kingdom here.
USian here, and totally agree. The willful ignorance is stunning to behold.
But help me with my potential ignorance here - is this meme also suggesting that ordinary citizens of other developed countries know about these things? Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
My impression has always been that people in other countries read about this awful shit in the same places I do online, and that the differences in mainstream knowledge are about much more basic stuff like coal and climate change being bad while healthcare is good.
Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
No, that’s the entire curriculum. Kinda impossible not to properly discuss a country’s hystory without mentioning the US when the US has been fucking with it
Which country?
In Brazil there have been several pretty important meddlings, but at most the schools say that there where “several parties involved”
Like our dictatorship, where I’d only learnt “other countries incentivized the coup”
I’ve heard from many south american comrades, that their school systems have memory-holed this entire historical period of anti-communist massacres. Only now with the pink tide in some of these countries, is there any chance of liberals getting educated about their past.
Oh yeah, 100%
No, that’s the entire curriculum […]
I was asking about what country has US meddling as a considerable fraction of the curriculum
Pretty much only the AES countries. Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, China, Cuba.
I wonder what kind of acrobatics occupied Korea has to go through in their national history books.
How they will teach about the military dictatorship era of my country without mentioning Operation Condor?
A lot of this is really old so it’s the kind of thing my parents casually mentioned when I was growing up.
But then we learn the details at University, either in history classes or more broadly in any kind of discussion of colonialism, neoimperialism, etc.
Belgian here. Nope. No idea what they’re on about.
In Mexico City we even have a museum dedicated to foreign interventions, and we are not really an AES state.
Unitedestadian has long been the term used to describe USA citizens by the Spanish-speaking population of the Americas. Not their fault the country picked a length intro title and a vague region as their country name. Imagine if the UK was the UKE, United Kingdom of Europe, and called themselves Europeans by default. The other 90% would be pissed and make their own names, no?
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Oh those darn bootlickers! 😅
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usonia
I wish this had stuck.
That coulda worked. If only it didn’t sound like an Ace Combat antagonist country. Osea, Usea, Yuktobonia, Belka, Aurelia, Usonia, see?
In truth, I’m just a Frank Lloyd Wright fanboy.
I miss a sub I followed on reddit, Frank Lloyd Wrong
Frank Lloyd Wright designed awesome buildings, but his “usonian” urban planning ideas (i.e. Broadacre City) were fucking catastrophic.
I haven’t been able to find the reference again, but I read something that said he actually worked for the FHA and wrote some of their design guidelines – in other words, that he was directly responsible for the proliferation of suburban sprawl.
First time seeing “United Statesian” idek what to say besides I hope to never encounter it again
I prefer usonian, but ppl seem to hate that even worse. Much shorter than saying “US citizen”, and also not going along with the US cooption of the term america.
I find Burgerlander just rolls off your tongue easier
I’ll also accept Burgerstani & Statesian.
«complaints about stealing this name from Hamburg»
Just call them burgers
should start saying gringo, it also started as a way to protest against us troops (green-go)
I use Yank. I understand some Yanks think Yank only applies to New Englanders. I don’t care, they’re all Yanks.
Usonian evokes that weird Frank Lloyd Wright concept of kitschy suburbia that the US could do with substantially less of.
usaan myself
I, too, wish to never encounter an unitedstatian
Speaking as a…USian?..many of us know about these already and are ashamed of them.
I can assure you that you are giving the general public far too much credit unfortunately.
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Jesus fucking christ. I have not read that before, but it is the most believable thing I’ve seen all week.
I’ll look it up tomorrow. I am always curious, but I cannot handle having this fact confirmed to me right now, lol.
I’m going to bet that if I did one of those street interview things with the question: “Do you know what operation condor is? Do you know what the phoenix program is?” I’d get maybe 1 usonian out of 300 that would have even heard of them.
Instead of ‘american’ or USian or others, why not Yankee? It has historical significance to the united states, originated a a pejorative, and the south hates it. Perfect
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I’m literally a yankee, as in a lifelong resident of the area north of the Mason-Dixon line and I’ve visited several historical civil war sites over the decades because they’re among the inexpensive points of interest within several hours of here.
I think you’re both kind of right. Everything the previous comment said is correct IMO about it starting with a negative connotation and people in the south probably hating it. But modern online usage feels pretty respectful too. Even in a professional setting, if I were on a typical call and somebody from Europe referred to somebody thousands of km (or miles, lol) away on the other side of the US as one of the yankees/yanks, I don’t think it would even register as something I’d remember. (well NOW it will because of this comment, thanks lemmy! :D )
Plus more recently, those of us who do wild shit like pay attention to the outside world don’t exactly take offense to people insulting this fucked up country/government/culture/etc. We’re right here agreeing with you. So something like “yankee” doesn’t stand out much when you read somebody across the world write “fuck all USians” and you think to yourself “…I can see that. That’s fair.”
I prefer gringo thanks.
Just lower case “yank” will suffice. That one’s already in use.
26k people killed in the Phoneix Program alone.
People also forget what they did and continue to do in the marshall islands and their literal apartheid there.
Rather than ‘american’ or others, Yankee? It has historical s
Yankee doesn’t have an s
Instead of ‘american’ or others,
Ranch hand? I can only think of one thing that could be for and it’s not food. lmao
