The conversations are amazing
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Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We’ve been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.
I mean isn’t this more "circle jerking " about dismantling state propaganda? Interacting with those you were told are your enemy?
Besides, people should always celebrate the positives, and look towards them as something that is possible in their country too.
And as an fyi: when we were here before, the workers revolution in Russia was new. The achievements were so profound that workers in North America began demanding similar concessions from our governments. There was a real threat of overthrowing the existing power structures. And what happened? Weekends, literacy, healthcare, just generally improved living conditions. To dismiss cultural exchange as circle jerking is to ignore history and the power that comes with knowing things are better elsewhere, and that you can have that too.
when we were here before
🎶Couldn’t look you in the eye 🎶
You keep on coping there little buddy. What’s happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.
Uhhh, not exactly regular people. From what I’ve seen from the Rednote, at least my feed is wealthy upper-middle or upper class, while the Americans are from low to middle class.
not what I see in my feed, might depend on the interests you picked and whom you followed, etc
Sorry for being pedantic, but those foldable work rulers are exactly 2 m long (at least in MetricLandia), which is, incidentally, the span of IQ values (0-200).
So yeah, it literally can be mapped one-to-one to a (common type of) ruler.
200cm, the american one is up to 80 inches 😁
It’s honestly very wholesome to see this kind of interaction. On top of cute moments like Chinese users telling the new US users that they are their “spies,” seeing a lot of blatant myth dispelling surrounding the PRC is great to help tear down the Red Scare.
wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.
some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs
some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs
Yes exactly. There are lots of internet weirdos trying to spread culture war nonsense, but if you actually go outside every once in a while, you realize that most people just aren’t like that. I work in a restaurant that has a lot of ukrainian and russian visitors (migrants). At one point, a large group of russians came in for a birthday party, and they asked the owner to put on a playlist of russian music. Like, really cheesy russian pop. After some time, a girl from a smaller table of ukrainians calls me over and complains about the music. I relay it to the owner, and he asks them what they would rather listen to instead. They tell him, and he adds their songs on the queue. The rest of the evening was spent playing and dancing to russian and ukrainian and armenian songs (the owner is armenian, and there were some armenian guests too) and the atmosphere was just generally very chill. Not a single fuck was given about politics that evening.
imagine making social media so bad your own citizens actively procure your biggest rival’s networks.
Imagine allowing citizens to be so free that they can go to your biggest rival’s social media to read narratives favouring them, get influenced by rival propaganda, and then shit you on your percieved weak points.
It’s never too late to discard your patriotism to a state that doesn’t give a fuck about you. You don’t owe it your allegiance, be it Burgerland or India or whichever shitty capitalist state.
Patritoism?
I suppose it is easy to be patriotic to a state which hides even publicly known events from its plebs.Try to get opinion of the Chinese on RedNote about Uyguirs and Teinman Square. I’ll wait.
Tiananmen square is one of the most popular places in China, it’d be like saying Times square in new york city. You’re referring to what they call the june 4th incident, and you can absolutely talk about it on chinese social media.
That’s actually a cool website. Thanks.
EDIT : Apparently linked by the other commenter, but your work. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing.
This paints “massacre” as retaliation against CIA sponsered armed factions. Looks very much like what happened in Bangladesh recently, but unlike China CIA succeeded in Bangladesh.No doubt the US will keep trying. It’s always working to regime change states that it can’t sufficiently control.
Lol, that’s the worst attempts at spelling Tienanmen Square and Uyghurs I’ve seen yet, and I’ve seen a lot.
dont the uyghur thing get proven false time and time again?
videos and photos inevitably leak of shit like this but theres nothing credible to support a genocide happening in china… why do people believe this?
As a civ player, I know a cultural victory when I see one.
Few things blew my mind even though I’ve been a big fan of Chinese economic and political policy for a while
They actually really like Soviet Culture, the marching soldiers and flags etc. Soviet rock like Kino and the like is very popular!
They’re casually Marxist, its not something they have to fight to learn about so socialism is a casual existence for them. I figured the youth would be “too cool or hip” but doesn’t seem to be the case
They’re very similar as gamers, they really like shooters like battlefield and cs go. I assume their MMOs are different but I’m asking about that
It truly is a massive cultural exchange the likes of which have never been seen before. I’m trying to find out if they grew up on the same games, Morrowind Deus Ex Thief Ultima Online D&D etc
Oh yeah they really like Soviet culture. My first post on there is of some Soviet artwork and it got 1.3k likes, on a brand new account. Wouldn’t see that happening on Insta or Xitter.
If only…
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Reason: MisinformationTruths you find inconvenient are not misinformation, reporter.
I still don’t believe the TEMU bit though
I like how one person said they don’t use child labour because they are inefficient. If they were efficient though …
I totally believe child labour is inefficient.
I also believe it’s cheap and capitalism doesn’t care.
Honestly, I don’t even believe it’s inefficient. There’s plenty of documented/recorded evidence of child labor around the world. Sometimes, all you really need is a pair of hands, and kids are physically capable of doing it. Countries with shitty labor laws are ripe with child labor abuse.
True. Kids were sent up chimneys to clean because it was more efficient.
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You believe the rest lol? I mean it can be true but its just made up internet memes.
Remember that “Grapes of Wrath” completely backfired as a propaganda piece because Russians were amazed that poor Americans could still afford cars
What do you mean propaganda piece? Stienbeck didn’t write that for Americans to read?
Lol people actually believed that social credit score bullshit?
American here, yes. To be fair I don’t think about China a lot.
Try to keep in mind that is far from the only thing you’ve been lied to about. Not just about China either. The US propaganda machine is massive, and far reaching.
Just goes to show you how deeply permeating the Red Scare is. Reminds me of that “exploding helmets” story that was obviously bogus but peddled as though it was true.
That’s one I never even heard of until now! I’m not surprised that the CIA-backed Falun Gong’s Epoch Times covered it: China Develops Helmets for Soldiers With Self-Destruct Button: Report. You can just make up any zany thing about the US’s designated baddies, and people will buy it.
Yep, I remember that one as it came out. Super silly.
But… social credit literally is real… There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.
On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.
The credit score in China is to keep tabs on businesses to prevent corruption and excesses, just basic things the US used to do back in the 1950s, but would now be considered “authoritarian”.
The credit scores in the US are used to prevent regular people from getting housing.
Plenty of people also still believe the secret Chinese police stations bullshit.
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I mean I feel real stupid reading into it, but up until now, yes
does it surprise you when a non neglible amount of americans believe the earth is flat? or that vaccines have nanomachines to control your brain? 😂
And they believe Uyghur genocide too. They’re fucking brainwashed. They completely lack critical thinking capabilities.
A great way to get people to understand is to insult them. That always works well
Not everything! For instance, we don’t wear shoes to bed.
Wait, no? I’m not even chinese and I believed.
Seriously? We aren’t completely insane… Yet.
Yep, not only is shown in movies/series/games but I listen to a brazillian podcast that lives in the USA and they make fun of that so I never doubt it.
The unexpected propaganda win for the PRC too lol. Anyone who might have been doubting the benefits of the dictatorship of the proletariat will now have first hand evidence that life is absolutely not better in capitalism
I didn’t think child labor still existed in China, just harsh labor conditions and low pay.
China’s government’s strict control of the media did, however, lead to me not questioning the social credit score thing.
Purchasing power is rising dramatically, labor conditions as well.
Same.
Not hard to believe when there’s camps for uyghurs.
Happy to be wrong.
I maintain this, but other comrades like @davel and @yogthos keep better megathreads about this topic.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#whats-going-on-with-the-uyghurs
This megathread is garbage, it lists quora and twitter threads as sources.
Twitter and quora are not sources lol. They’re platforms ppl use, and their posts should be measured by their merits, not where it’s posted.
I mean america has wage slavery. I just think the detail are just different
USA have literal slavery, and it’s even straight up called slavery in 13 amendment to constitution. Which also makes US afaik the only country that did enshrined slavery in constitution. Land of the free my ass.
labor conditions actually aren’t very bad at all. equivalent to first world countries. pay is relative
