Good call! :)
not like us
I actually respect vegans that are vegan to prevent the suffering of animals.
I get it. Grew up farming. Chicken houses are an industrial horror machine.
We’ve recently bought a play farm and hope to raise or hunt all our meat. Only the slaughter and butchering of steers will be outsourced. Takes some serious equipment to handle an animal that large.
I’m an omnivore by evolution and enjoy meat and hunting. I’m always a little sad when I kill something, however. I figure that sadness means I’m human and is a good thing. When I eat meat from something I killed, it means more. There is a lot of respect involved in it as well something like religion.
If more people had to kill their meat, we would probably live in a very different world and there would be a lot more vegans.
If more people had to kill their meat, we would probably live in a very different world and there would be a lot more vegans.
I agree with your overall post, but you have the conclusion backwards.
The closer you are to hunting or slaughtering the more it’s just a normal part of life. I’ve never met a vegan when I grew up in a rural area around farms, only after I moved to the city and it’s almost exclusivly people that grew up in the city.
You might be right. When I was young; didn’t meet vegans until I experienced big cities.
I heartily agree. I’m also an omnivore, raised on a farm. The best meat is the meat you raised or hunted yourself, both ethically and taste wise.
The respect I have for the animal I personally kill for sustenance is the closest an atheist like myself will ever get to religion. I respect the lives of animals to sustain mine as a human, and I know if I raised it or hunted it, it had a much better life and will taste better than any meat you’ll see at a Wallmart.
Damn skippy. I’ve learned I’m an atheist with a pagan heart.
I’ve found that I must be hunting something when I go in the woods or on the water. Animal, vegetable, or something else. Don’t care if I actually kill, catch, or find; there just has to be a goal. I love taking other people and helping them get in tune with the world.
we used to live in a world were almost every slaughtered their own animals to eat and withing a rounding error everyone ate meat. its only icky to us today BECAUSE we dont interact with it.
Really, all you need is a small tractor to lift the steer after you’ve skinned it and to drop the gut. Skin the animal on the ground and roll it from side to side to get it all off, split the chest and cut out the anus, start lifting at the rear legs with chains through the achilles tendon, and pull the anus through, then as you lift more you can free the gut from the backbone and gravity will pull the gut down as you get higher.
Let it all fall on the skin, pull out the bits of organs you want or can feed the dog, and you have the carcass hanging now. Split with a sawsall and a long demolition blade. Make yourself a handhold between the fifth and sixth rib, then cut through the spine and breastbone above the 6th rib.
Leave as much fat on the inside of the cavity as possible so the tenderloin and brisket don’t dry out when hanging. Try to hang it at 2-4C for a couple weeks.
This sounds like excellent advice. I don’t even have a small tractor yet. Before steers, I’m going to have to string new fence. Next spring, if I’m lucky and have worked real hard, I’ll be getting a bottle calve or two.
Did find a cinder block shed with a good roof that wasn’t even listed. Has a loading ramp for a pickup. I’m real tempted to just outsource it.
Have a hernia and don’t know if I can do it.
Do have a root cellar that will be perfect for hanging.
It’s not a bad job, but with a hernia you might find it distinctly unenjoyable. There’s quite a bit of bending and kneeling as you skin, obviously.
I’m vegan btw
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I mainly kill animals to enjoy the silence that comes after.
Damn mosquitoes sound annoying AF!
You’re going to steal my blood and annoy me while doing so?
the least you could do is stfu and be grateful but no you have to fucking play vuvuzela LITERALLY IN MY EAR
And yet, when it’s people, there’s a problem. Such a double standard 🙄
Hey, speak for yourself! Some of us take communion…
99% of humans have the complete opposite reaction when the animal in question is a mosquito.
Mosquitos are almost parasites and are vectors for disease. It’s a pretty different relationship we have with them.
Well, let’s unpack this thought then.
Pigs (you know, the animal that bacon actually comes from) mostly live off of human waste (aka garbage). They are the origin of the H1N1 virus (also known as the flu) and when not contained they are considered absolute pests.
How are they different than mosquitos again?
Not sure if you are arguing for or against pig farming. I’m against mosquito farming btw.
Wait, you don’t want to come to my mosquito farm and pet the skeeters???
You can even play with the baby skeeters in the huge brackish water pond in the back! It’s completely free of predators!
I appreciate the humor but I think your initial comparison is pretty bad.
Wild pigs don’t depend on waste from humans. They’re invasive to the Americas, sure, but there is a huge difference between hunting an invasive species that is wreaking havoc in the ecosystem (and possibly going through your “waste”) versus raising domesticated pigs in abysmal conditions — and all other associated negative consequences — for a market with inflated demand.
Also, the issue with H1N1 is, again, mostly due to farming.
So, no, pigs inherently aren’t “almost parasites” and although they can get diseases, like all animals, the threat of transmitting those diseases to humans come from farming practices.
Mosquitoes are consequential and our relationship with pigs is largely voluntary. The difference is enormous.
I can kill a mosquito by clapping my hands
The pig would probably think I’m petting it or something
Edit: for the record I mean no ill will, I just thought it was funny to say because well, mosquitos are tiny!
I laughed 😂
When you swat them they just get really annoyed
texas has huge issues with feral hog populations. get yourself a squadron of helos, go find the herds and turn them into bacon: feral hog bacon is like cheating the system, they’re a nuisance and threaten livelihoods and kill more people than sharks.
I would join vegan standards but I still wait for the “eat the rich” part. I mean who would do it? Those vegans? no. This is a job for meat lovers.
want to see a westerner have a full on tantrum? Suggest to them that their actions are not always morally neutral
The smug, always morally neutral easterners:
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
Look up the prevalence of veganism
The smug, eternally morally superior vegan:
smug, eternally morally superior vegan Yay! me 🥰 also: 😏
I mean, Vegans are morally superior, that’s a solved question.
Can anyone downvoting this explain how vegans are not morally superior?
- Not a vegan btw
I would be very surprised. I am not even fully vegan myself, people just don’t want to confront their own moral issues.
Thry certainly earn the smug reputation
This isn’t about being smug or not. Veganism is morally superior as long as you consider that animals suffer for Human Consumption, envionmental impacts of animal products far outweigh vegan alternatives, and humans can get all of their nutrition from vegan sources.
The reason humans eat meat is for pleasure and profit, neither of which can be considered “morally superior” to the benefits of Veganism.
They’re better than you and it should be known.
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I really hope it’s a cultural difference, but where I’m from, calling someone a ‘morally inferior feminine whiner’ “having a full on tantrum” because they said something you dislike with is frowned upon.
Flattening “I deserve to murder terrified children slaves because I’m a picky eater” to “something I dislike” is a bigger offense than your misquote.
But your description of the carnists in this thread is not inaccurate, minus the misogyny you’re illiterately trying to paint me with.
But no matter what, wherever there’s suffering; wherever there’s exploitation, there’s a .world account defending it in the most trite, superficial way possible.
I grew up on a farm, I’ve killed and slaughtered my own food my whole life and I always felt good about eating meat because of that fact.
As I get older I’m really starting to hate killing things, I don’t want to end a life at all. My couple of vegetarian days might turn into a whole lifestyle.
You’ve got this! There are a ton of benefits to going plant-based. Dominion is a great documentary to show how most (~90%) are treated, which emphasizes the importance for us to shift away (it doesn’t sound like the way you did it was as bad as this, but this is the info that made me swap away recently).
Oh hey, a 1-day-old account posting 6 vegan posts in 1 hour to unrelated communities. I’ve seen this one before.
Hey! I made this content and was made aware of Lemmy by a friend two days ago. I decided to join and wanted to enter with a bang by sharing some of my OC.
Hey, I’m vegan!
Hello!
Totally missed touch along with many other senses.
- Killing with my bare hands let’s me feel the life leaving their bodies
- Killing while standing on one leg balances my desires for vengeance
- Feasting upon the flesh of those I murder satiates the hunger within me
- I become lost in the blood frenzy, all sense of time vanishing
actual sociopaths find comments like this funny, it reads like a teenage vampire lover fanfic.
The first time we harvested one of our pigs we had a wake for him. We ate all kinds of delicious cuts and raised a toasted to him.
To Biggun. He was a nice pig and he is a tasty pig.
TO BIGGUN!
<om no nom>
We are part of the cycle too, our body nutrients will help grow the grass that feed’s Biggun’s great great grandchildren.
Nah. You’ll be pumped full of preservatives so that your funeral and viewing can be held 2 weeks later to give your relatives time to travel. Then you’ll be buried in a plastic coffin in a hole filled with cement.
You’re nutrients ain’t doing shit.
Assumptions all around, my funeral arrangements are a quick trip to the crematorium and a quick sprinkle in a forest.
I’m not paying to have my corpse mummified or put in a box, seems wasteful.
I agree
I want to come back as bacon.
I don’t kill any animals, I leave that to others.
I am a lot more convinced by the environmental arguments to veganism.
