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They tried their best :(
The way they pass laws that are then used by the republicans, it’s the battering ram that should be labelled
I no longer vote for neoliberals or folks who have ever received aipac money or money from the other Israeli lobbies.
Period.
Works for me.
Edit: Willing to change my stance if they come out publicly against money in politics and actually get it passed, locally or otherwise.
I guess you’re staying home
I vote every election. Not sure what you’re mumbling about.
Blue no matter who got us where we are today. The democratic leadership is pathetic as fuck.
Mumbling?
Yea I do it a lot too, I guess I was asking what you mean maybe. Not sure. I get attacked from the center and the far left I suppose not including the right
I guess I care more about the far left and the center than I do about the right but I don’t see it like a football team maybe
That’s not me downvoting you at all by the way
Thank goodness for orgs like PSL.
It is not the job of the party to appeal to the people. But the job of the people to subjugate themselves to the party.
I wonder what would happen if Harris wanted to win against Trump more than she wanted to support genocide?
Antisemite!
A plan - if it’s not too late https://represent.us/ A video about it- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQij4aQq1k
As stated elsewhere, I’m incredibly skeptical of any strategy that depends on trying to “convince” capitalist organizations to help the people. This is entirely contrary to how the working class has historically taken power, the organization must itself be a worker organization. Lady Izdihar made an excellent model of the Leninist theory of revolutionary organization:
Worker organizing has consistently been the most effective and widespread form of gaining working class control. We cannot simply appeal to congress, even if we could flip one against the system they represent, they would be drummed out of the party and relentlessly harassed. The capitalist system protects itself from within, and must be overthrown by the working class.
The FDR admin was pretty helpful. Union membership was declining during the Great Depression until the admin started implementing labor and union-friendly policies. Wouldn’t have happened without organization and all that either, of course. Even the NLB under Biden was marginally helpful. I mean, the politicians obviously won’t want to overthrow the system or anything like that, and a lot of the reforms could be seen as a way to save capitalism from itself.
It’s important to contextualize that the concessions of the FDR period were a response to better working conditions in the soviet union. This was a calculated move not to help workers, but protect capital.
You can go back to brunch now. You’re welcome.
America needs a change in the political system. However, I have no idea of American law and whether that is even possible with the current constitution. If it is, both parties have not shown any effort to democratize the country by allowing smaller parties to participate, but protected their asses. If that’s the case, enough pressure is needed to push for change.
The idea of “democracy” is that all power comes from the people. I don’t see that in America.
… both parties have not shown any effort to democratize the country by allowing smaller parties to participate
the democrats usually use the law to keep smaller parties off of the ballot legally to prevent smaller parties from participating.
the republicans also do it, but it’s exceptionally rare and so understood that; effectively speaking; it’s the democrats who do it.
Ah yes the same people who abstained from voting or picked a “third option” and allowed Trump to take office. Na those people are just as bad a Trump voters.
I love these asinine takes. I’ve yet to have a single person come up with a convincing argument about how I helped Trump, but let’s see you give it a shot.
I didn’t vote for Kamala(or Trump, before some braindead moron claims otherwise)
I live in California.
California historically has voted blue for the last ~60 years.
Predictably, Kamala won California by a large margin like any sane person expected.
So how did my vote help Trump? I showed my displeasure with the Democrat Party AND Kamala still got my states electoral votes regardless. So how, exactly, did my vote support Trump?
Or is there actually a shitload of nuance to this issue that you conveniently throw out the window? This is a braindead MAGA level cope.
Dems did more to put Trump in power than every third party and protest voter combined, and you’re still making excuses for them because you stand for absolutely nothing
Wait, so are we meaningless fringe weirdos who can be safely ignored, or are we powerful enough to sway an election? Because if it’s the former then you’re just scapegoating us for the colossal failures of the party, and if it’s the latter then that makes it even more inexcusable that the Democrats wouldn’t even not commit genocide to secure our votes.
The enemy is both strong and weak
Yeah they could have even lied and done a cease-fire until the elections were done
Becsuse we all know how well israel follows cease fires
Fair lol
Even if everyone that voted third party had voted for Harris, she still would have lost. Voting rates are extraordinarily low in the US Empire in general. Both parties are ultimately capitalist parties that are entirely divorced from the working classes, and the need for a working class party like PSL is critical for any advancement.
Wait why is a working class party necessary in current capitalist systems when what we want is to overthrow the current governments and instate a socialist ones?
Should we Participate in Bourgeois Parliaments? - V. I. Lenin
Even if only a fairly large minority of the industrial workers, and not “millions” and “legions”, follow the lead of the Catholic clergy—and a similar minority of rural workers follow the landowners and kulaks (Grossbauern)—it undoubtedly signifies that parliamentarianism in Germany has not yet politically outlived itself, that participation in parliamentary elections and in the struggle on the parliamentary rostrum is obligatory on the party of the revolutionary proletariat specifically for the purpose of educating the backward strata of its own class, and for the purpose of awakening and enlightening the undeveloped, downtrodden and ignorant rural masses. Whilst you lack the strength to do away with bourgeois parliaments and every other type of reactionary institution, you must work within them because it is there that you will still find workers who are duped by the priests and stultified by the conditions of rural life; otherwise you risk turning into nothing but windbags.
Lenin’s argument was that even if an electoral system is deeply flawed, participation is necessary in order to reach people who are invested in the system. In addition to spreading the message, it also provides a way to assess the strength and popularity of a platform, and it can serve as a means of testing and weeding out prospective leaders who might be opportunists.
The party is necessary to actually overthrow the government. Voting for said party helps show that the present system is rigged, and helps get the word out about their platform. See Lady Izdihar’s diagram on the Leninist theory of revolution:
In short, PSL is a revolutionary party that engages in electoralism not for belief in winning, but as a part of revolutionary strategy.
Wrong again
Stop running evil candidates.
And we’re just going to continue to pretend that Republicans don’t exist. Because only the Democrats get judged around here.
OP apparently doesn’t know what gaslighting means.
Both the DNC and GOP get judged. The major reason why the DNC gets more attention is because there is a significant portion of the population still under the belief that the DNC is a meaningfully better party, when both are in service of capital and both are imperialist, genocidal orgs. Therefore, the working classes need to organize in parties like PSL and directly replace the dying system of late-stage imperialism.
A plan - if it’s not too late - https://represent.us/
A video about it- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQij4aQq1k
I’m incredibly skeptical of any strategy that depends on trying to “convince” capitalist organizations to help the people. This is entirely contrary to how the working class has historically taken power, the organization must itself be a worker organization. Lady Izdihar made an excellent model of the Leninist theory of revolutionary organization:
Worker organizing has consistently been the most effective and widespread form of gaining working class control. We cannot simply appeal to congress, even if we could flip one against the system they represent, they would be drummed out of the party and relentlessly harassed. The capitalist system protects itself from within, and must be overthrown by the working class.
Would renea good be dead if haris had won. Is that objectivly better or worse than trump
Maybe, maybe not. The DNC has been funding ICE about the same as the GOP, and Harris was running on an anti-immigrant campaign to the right of Biden. Moreover, however, the global south would still be imperialized, Palestine would still be the target of genocide, and austerity would continue to be enforced domestically. Late-stage imperialism is the driver.
Democrats? I think I’ve heard of them, they were the ones insisting we had to support a genocide and then sending riot cops to beat us down when we disagreed, right?
No that was trump. Remeber he sent the marines in to force the issue.
No that was trump
I was at UCLA during the Biden administration when the four armored pigs broke some college kid’s arm in front of me, you lying little worm. I still remember the sound.
I was told there wasn’t going to be any purity tests.
I was told there werent going to be any more genocides.
No you weren’t
If you think “not invading other countries for oil” or “not doing ethnic cleansing of immigrants” are purity tests I don’t know what to tell you.
Famously controversial purity tests such as being anti-gestapo, maybe even anti-genocide
Famous words by Ea Nassir
You’re more impure than pure if you fail this one.
