• m532@lemmygrad.ml
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    The most virtuous profession to be, in libertarian logic, is scammer. Big money gain for little effort, therefore good.

    Working together is not allowed in individualism. Everyone must be a untrustworthy scammer out for the other’s money, as that’s what libertarians think everyone aspires to be.

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    Left wing (actual OG) Libertarianism is great. Right wing Libertarianism is basically a bunch of antisocial/intellectually lazy people who think the ideal society is one where everybody has a few acres of land with a little shack that they built themselves where they subsist on potatoes, carrots, and chicken eggs and stockpile gold and silver to trade with another libertarian twice a year.

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    Either incredibly selfish /self centered people, incredibly uninformed on the real world, or a combination of both.

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    Left libertarianism is great and serves as an effective counterbalance to many issues. Right libertarianism is often foolish at best and rarely includes the freedom to do things like live your life as you please

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    if you know someone who calls themself a libertarian, ask them how they feel about the age of consent then immediately seize their hard drive

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    Works wonderfully if you’re profit. The free markets love you and will do anything for you.

    Oh, you’re a people? Have you heard of our Lord and Savior profit? If you’re not helping profit then you must be hurting it, therefore hurting the market. We don’t take kindly to the likes of you.

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    afaik it was originally about freedom from oppression. as with so many things, it has been hijacked by bigots and they’ve twisted it to now mean their freedom to oppress others.

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    If you mean the Statesian, pro-capitalist kind, it’s mostly a silly ideology pushed by small business owners and other highly individualist classes that are nonetheless pushed towards the working classes by competing against ever-growing monopolies.

    The left wing version, I disagree with as you can’t dismantle the state without removing the basis of the state, class, and you can’t remove class without collectivizing production and distribution. Small, local cells loosely organized in a decentralist fashion would still result in class struggle and thus a form of state to hold one class over the others. That said, the leftists are valuable allies at times despite disagreements.

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    I think Libertarianism is incompatible with the way that humans operate as a society. Almost all flavors of libertarianism puts an individual’s right to live as they choose as long as that doesn’t violate the rights of others through force or fraud. Humans like to associate themselves into groups, and in almost any group there will be an imbalance in power, whether that’s economic power, physical power (strength), or even something as abstract as eloquence or how outgoing you are. The issue then becomes that someone somewhere has to enforce the right to not be forced into giving up rights. In the classical construction of how libertarians view government, it is very easy to become more powerful than those meant to enforce limits on power. Even in our current political system, you see this when companies will spend more on their anti-trust court cases than the entire FTC spends total in a decade. Libertarianism has no mechanism to keep the enforcer the most powerful party involved