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Careful op, Wikipedia is essentially Divine Scripture to western liberals.
That’s silly - it’s very much the work of humans with all the challenges that entails. However I find the Wikipedia projects aims of providing a globally accessible, multi language encyclopedia a pretty inspiring example of what global communities can achieve.
You can write it off if you want. There are a number of alternative projects that attempt similar things with their own approaches and political philosophies. Although none so far have achieved anywhere near the coverage that Wikipedia has.
That’s silly - it’s very much the work of humans with all the challenges that entails.
Those humans specifically being, pro-western-imperialist white males.. Any other voices or viewpoints are silenced.
The irony of posting a link to prolewiki which very much doesn’t attempt a NPOV.
You can’t stay neutral on a moving train, and there’s no such thing as neutrality in a world based on class struggle and class divisions.
Prolewiki is openly a pro-worker site, and wikipedia claims neutrality but in the practice is pro capitalist-imperialist. One is open and honest about its bias, the other is not.
Prolewiki is openly a pro-worker site, and wikipedia claims neutrality but in the practice is pro capitalist-imperialist. One is open and honest about its bias, the other is not.
Yes, something should be pro-labor class
Neutral points of view do not exist, so it’s better to honestly take a partisan stance than to do so while lying about it.
Neither does Wikipedia, at least prolewiki doesn’t lie about it
The irony of not understanding that objectivity is not possible when describing events, while being subjective in your critique yourself.
Prolewiki is precisely as biased as Wikipedia, it just admits it, which is preferable since it is easier to be aware of your bias if you actually take it into account.There is no such thing as a neutral point of view, if you have a brain capable of holding a point of view then you have a body that biases you towards your own survival, comfort and social connections.
It’s very much the work of humans with all the challenges that entails. However
However liberals will disregard the idea that Wikipedia isn’t an unattenuated connection to pure truth out of hand. That’s why I call it scripture; the idea that it has pervasive biases and inaccuracies is rejected without consideration; anything it states has considered true without possibility of question, even if the source Wikipedia is using would never be believed if it wasn’t getting laundered through Wikipedia.
You seem to be painting with a very broad brush there. I’ve never considered Wikipedia to be free of these problems, I doubt there is any reference work that is completely objectively true.
But it tries to be better one edit at a time.
I’m generalising. You may not be guilty of this, but your average western liberal is. See, for example, other comments in this thread.
But it tries to be better one edit at a time.
You’re attaching a spiritual quality to an inanimate thing. Wikipedia doesn’t “try” to be anything.
In fact, it often gets worse one edit at a time
fine, replace “it” with “the community” if the impersonal subject confuses you.
Well the community sure as hell doesn’t try to be better; if anything they work hard to entrench these problems as hard as possible.
confuses you
Go fuck yourself
That’s silly - it’s very much the work of humans with all the challenges that entails. However I find the Wikipedia projects aims of providing a globally accessible, multi language encyclopedia a pretty inspiring example of what global communities can achieve.
didn’t usaid used to have a similar motto only for it to be revealed less than 2 years ago that it was little more than a propaganda manufacturing enabler when trump gutted it?
I guess we don’t have to worry about effect of the cuts then.
there are other organizations out there that will use everything you give them to help instead of turning most of it into pro-us-empire regime control.
Sure - but the point of usaid was being funded by the US government which has(had?) deeper pockets that your average NGO. Other nation states give more as a portion of GDP but there has been a lot of back sliding. Both China and Russia’s foreign aid budgets are tiny both in absolute and relative to GDP terms. Only a few of the Nordics manage to exceed the UN guide of 0.7% of GDP.
Narrowing the scope this tightly – without factoring in the global scale historical impact – is probably the only way you can argue in favor of USAID.
It’s a bit crazy to see the kinds of things that are on wikipedia lately about political and social subjects. Especially when you compare the english pages to other languages, and you realize that a lot of far-right leaning wordings and hints are scattered all around the english pages but not in the other versions.
I like how that page sources one of the most prominent Israeli genocide deniers as an authority
All definitions of genocide involve ethnicity, race, or religion as a motivational factor.[5] Genocide scholar Israel Charny has proposed a definition of genocide in the course of colonization.[7]
Gaza Fight is Humanly and Legally Just - Israel Charny
Genocide scholar Israel
Do you have an approved list of scholars that Wikipedia is allowed to reference on the subject?
Seriously though the linked article seems pretty thoroughly referenced and it’s not like he’s the only source. He certainly has the academic background to be quoted and his Wikipedia page even calls out his views on Gaza.
All references to his work should be scrubbed as he clearly holds no expertise on the matter. If anything the opposite.
Him being quoted in articles like this shows how infested Wikipedia is with propaganda. Israelis raid Wikipedia to put their own propagandists in there as authorities.
Noo Wikipedia definitely does not have any systemic issues. Its not like its full of Nazis or zionist or power users. Oh wait all three of those are common “human interest” stories about the site.
This is possibly one of the best examples so far.
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