• Rooskie91@discuss.online
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    5 months ago

    Strengthen governments? Corporations have been specifically sowing distrust in government so that they can convince voters to weaken regulations and vote against their own interests. How are corporations strengthening governments when they benefit from weak government?

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      Corporations benefit from Capitalist governments. Larger Capitalists benefit when it is more difficult to compete, such as with strong IP laws or high startup costs, giving them free reign for monopoly.

      They also love large militaries, as the MIC makes a ton of money off the suffering of people worldwide.

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      They’re not weaker they’re captured. It’s a concept called inverted totalitarianism and it’s terrible.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      The government represents the interests of the class that holds power in society, which is the capital owning class under capitalism.

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      5 months ago

      Regulations help to protect large corporations from competition, and then the larger the government is the more contracts it gives out. Are you saying we need a bigger stronger government?

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    This meme’s text has figures about “now” but doesn’t note that it is mostly a paraphrased quote from Deus Ex, a video game set in a fictional dystopian version of America in 2052. The speaker is not in fact talking about 2024 America. But even for the past figures, I would want citations.

    The first part seems to be talking about tax sources as a portion of total taxes raised, which isn’t easy to search for. I did find a table that cited whitehouse.gov and recorded income collections compared to total GDP at least. It did peak in 1945, but only at 7.1%.

    The US Bureau of Labor doesn’t seem to have records on self-employment before 1948. The only thing I could find talking about self-employment in 1900 was a blog post that said it was 50%. 90% self-employment sounds like a lot of subsistence farming and odd-jobs work, which isn’t exactly the ideal economic model.

    The Deus Ex part is part of a longer conversation, but here is the relevant section:

    JC Denton: Just answer the question.
    Leo Gold: Don’t believe me? It’s all in the numbers. For a hundred years, there’s been a conspiracy of plutocrats against ordinary people.
    JC Denton: Do you have a single fact to back that up?
    Leo Gold: Number one: In 1945, corporations paid 50 percent of federal taxes. Now they pay about 5 percent. Number two: in 1900, 90 percent of Americans were self-employed; now it’s about two percent.
    JC Denton: So?
    Leo Gold: It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.
    
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    5 months ago

    The fact that a worker who barely makes ends meet pays 10-20 times the taxes Amazon pays is… Fascinating in a dark way.

    Similar to feudal peasants that used to pay up in the form of free labor and produce, while their noble overlords enjoyed massive privileges and zero taxes.

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    5 months ago

    I got a coworker that does this without drinking 😆 Most of us kinda check out until he picks up that we’re not engaging