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Smackyroon@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

"China is AuThORItAriAN!" - Liberals

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Smackyroon@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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  • Yliaster@lemmy.world
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    Not an American or a liberal, and yes, china is authoritarian. Is america better? No. The credit score system in the US is also bad.

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      Authoritarian is a meaningless pejorative.

      The social credit score isn’t real.

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          Go back to 4chan obergruppenfuhrer. Or provide some evidence/analysis but I doubt you have that capability.

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        Re: authoritarianism— your opinion.

        Some of us aren’t in favour of oppressive regimes that aren’t transparent, surveil, and censor.

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          “Authoritarianism” is meaningless because all it means is “uses state power.” It doesn’t acknowledge which class controls the state and who it uses state power against. In China, the working classes control the state, and use state power against bad actors and capitalists more than anything else. China is oppressive to capitalists and liberating to workers.

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              China is a socialist country, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state. Child labor is illegal in China, you may be thinking of the US.

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            I’m using the term to refer to suppression of people (which isn’t restricted to workers) in politics, media, etc.

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              Except by “the people” you seem to mean capitalists and fascists, not the broad majority of society that are uplifted and support the system.

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                This!

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          Still better then the baby eating pedo elite

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            It is possible to oppose all three things. It is possible to simultaneously oppose the Social Credit System in China, the Credit Score system in the United States, and the elites connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

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              The social credit system that you know of doesn’t exist.

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                Interesting phrasing. A phrasing that assumes assumptions on my part. So … what social credit system DOES exist.

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                  My previous comment on it. Mostly there is no “score” it’s a binary list of businesses and business people (some individuals may end up on the list if they lose a defemation suit for example) who owe debts/damages and refuse to pay. It’s not automatic, it’s not affected by your day to day life and you are put on the list only after a court hearing

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              Is it? You need to think more pragmatically, you are a laborer. Your only bargaining chip is your labour, decide who gets it. Personally, I don’t want to be part of any helping them live their best life.

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                I am curious, who is “them” in your statement and how does opposing all three of those things inherently cause me to give up my bargaining power?

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                  No don’t, you never will. You’ll always contribute what ever system you’re a part of. Just choose one and the chienese might do a lot of bad things but they aren’t the pedofile baby eating elites.

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          I am a Chinese minority living in China. You really don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to China. You very clearly have done 0 research beyond maybe reading RFA. You should be quiet until you have done some proper research.

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            You can’t possibly be a minority in China, what with all those intact organs.

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            Ad hominem, ad hominem, and mmm, ad hominem. Yeah, nothing to see here.

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              Least insufferable redditer

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              It isn’t an ad hominem fallacy to point out that doing little research on a topic and repeating easily disproven talking points isn’t a sound basis of argument.

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                And I have, and my responses were given little in return from them.

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                  You have not, considering everything you’ve said has been easily debunked, and when encountering hard numbers you reflect to dogmatism.

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                    Dogmatism? And what about you?

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              “Homnum Homnum”- Liberal chimps.

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              Not an adhominem. You’re not wrong because you’re stupid you just happen to be both wrong and stupid.

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                Well in the comment I said that you didn’t explain why I was wrong and simply resorted to making a string of ad hominems.

                So I’ll reiterate: ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem.

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                  Saying you should shut up if you haven’t researched a topic isn’t an adhominem.

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                    “No investigation, no right to speak”

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                    Alright, you should shut up if you can’t respond to my answers.

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