I responded to the aspects of your argument that weren’t personal attacks. Personal attacks, yes, I am not interested in.

‘‘Industry standard’’ doesn’t mean anything. Government surveillance and everything this sub stands against is ‘‘industry standard’’. Just because everyone’s doing it doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

I ‘‘singled out’’ Proton because it was the VPN I used the most prior. I’m not sure why that’s a problem.

Are you able to discuss things based on criticisms of logical reasoning and evidence, or are you going to continue to respond with personal attacks? I am open to critique.

I’ve only recently started looking into privacy so much of it goes over my head.

I don’t use mails for communication, but I’d just like to limit the amount of information/tracking that corporate overlords can collect of me if I can help it (subscriptions mostly and the demographic information they imply, I suppose).

Just because mullvad and most other VPNs do something, doesn’t mean it’s good.

Israel is known for a level of surveillance that most other countries aren’t.

The rest of what you’ve said is just ad hominem I’m not interested in.

Mullvad doing something — even if it’s reknown — doesn’t automatically make it’s actions good.

Israel conducts surveillance of any VPN communications of any that exist in the region. This is fully legal there. This is a threat to privacy. You’d need to let me know how that isn’t the case, not that X or Y company also hosts a server in the region.

Re: mail, not looking for perfect, just better than Gmail, ideally FOSS.

I think mullvad has a server in Israel too

Why is it BS?

I did my research, I wanted community feedback for things I may have missed.

They don’t need to be materially linked; they are digitally linked. Israel allows it’s communication and intelligence agencies complete legal access to any communications through VPNs that operate in it’s area.

I don’t want that surveillance.

Then why boycott anything. Why use privacy-conscious alternatives. Everything is connected, afterall.

The British ought to actively strike against and shut this down ASAP or they will lose their country to complete fascism. Say goodbye to any aspect of democracy.

Issue is with Countersocial, not Lemmy. Lemmy works fine