Ukraine–the county literally being invaded by Russia–is an imperialist, war mongering tyrant? Get the fuck out of here with this slop. Could’ve just left it with the main flags, but throwing Ukraine’s flag in there is legit braindead Chinese/Russian trolling.
Uh, what? Look at the context of this post, jackass. The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy while everyone else is evil. I agree with most of the evil flags being there rightfully, but Ukraine is literally defending itself from unjustified invasion. Jfc, it’s crazy this has to be explained. Just look at the entire history of Russia’s aggression and bullying of Ukraine and try to tell me with a straight face that they’re unjustified in defending themselves from a foreign aggressor.
Uh, what? Look at the context of this post, jackass. The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy
The flag of Russia isn’t even in the meme, “jackass.” The flag of the USSR is, though sadly it hasn’t existed for a few decades now. Like most clueless liberals happily drowning in propaganda, you are falsely equating modern capitalist Russia with the USSR.
And that’s not even getting into the fact that even modern Russia (whose flag appears nowhere in this image, genius) was wholly justified in entering the civil war that had already been ongoing inside Ukraine on behalf of the eastern regions of Ukraine whose civilians were being slaughtered by the Ukrainian government’s militias. But I admit that it’s hard to keep a straight face when talking to someone who uses NATO buzzwords like “unjustified foreign aggressor” because I keep having to facepalm.
Begging liberals to stop thinking of the world in terms of “good guys and bad guys” like overgrown toddlers and start looking at things in terms of cause and effect like adults
Kiev is run by Bandera-upholding Neo-Nazis that took power in the western-backed Euromaidan coup in 2014. Since then, 13,000+ civilians in the Donbass region have been killed by the Kiev regime, which is why Donetsk and Luhansk voted to secede. Communists generally support Russian intervention to protect the DPR and LPR against the western-backed fascists, who shortly before Russian intervention had ammassed huge forces to invade the Donbass region and retake it.
Ukraine is supported by the west for similar reasons as Israel, they are governed by the far-right and serve western interests in their respective regions.
Seriously? The ussr and russia are completly different countries with a different political and ecenomic agenda the meme is by no means supporting the russian federation, it is supporting the ussr.
There was just cause. The Kiev regime has killed 13,000 civilians in the Donbass region, and had amassed huge amounts of troops to retake the seperatist regions shortly before Russian intervention stopped the invasion.
No, it makes it okay for a foreign country to invade with just cause when there was…
A coup
The next election was won through the popularity of a tv series, where the election winner played president on tv. This was not a coincidence.
It became very clear that the policies of these two presidents that it would completely isolate Ukraine from Russia, despite half of Ukraine being Russian and the other half semi-Russian.
This upset parts of Ukraine that have deep economic ties with Russia so much, that they declared independence of Ukraine to join Russia, starting with Crimea.
This in turn was painted by US/UK media as aggressive annexation by Putin.
It also became clear that Zelensky wanted to join the EU at all costs.
This concerned Russia as the EU doesn’t seem to be independent of NATO policy and having nukes placed close to Russia’s border aimed at Moscow in areas where xx% of the population would consider themselves Russian wanting to join Russia is considered a nightmare scenario for Russia if separatist conflict would be taking place there.
Russia then made negotiations with Ukraine to address both concerns and Ukraine did not uphold their part of the agreement. This happened twice and in both cases this ended up with military victory for Russia and the separatist areas.
Russia also negotiated with NATO, since NATO was supplying Ukraine with arms to end this conflict and it became clear that NATO and the EU were pushing Ukraine to further the conflict.
At this point Russia decided that it was time to act before things would get further out of control, showing Ukraine’s president that they were willing to wage war in order to prevent high otential nuclear conflict, by doing a small flash invasion, while preparing for world war III.
Ukraine’s president then flipped, saying he was willing to take the situation serious, but then flopped when UK’s former prime minister came to visit him telling Zelensky that NATO was prepared to fully support Ukraine with whatever military equipment he needed.
The west treats Ukraine like they do Israel. After the western-supported Euromaidan coup in 2014, they’ve armed millitant Banderites to crack down on communists and geopolitical adversaries of the west.
Its government came to power as a result of a US-backed coup, for starters.
edit: For the record, I upvoted you because your question is fair and valid if you don’t know the history and context of the situation. And the western media where many people understandably (if sadly) get their information from will never provide that history and context. That is why we get these confidently ignorant people coming into threads like this gobsmacked that anyone can deny what they see as the obvious truth of Russia’s “unjustified invasion by a foreign aggressor.”
If the US is running the show then yeah it’s definitely imperialism, we’ve very clearly succeeded in mongering up a war there, and I do recall some pretty unambiguous reports of the current regime in Ukraine directly suppressing opposition parties and suspending elections
Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll. But not even the Soviet Union, China, US, UK all the other does not excuse them from their atrocities. They are all bad, it does not matter if a Communist or a Capitalist is oppressing you, oppression is oppression. Trying to excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument. People deserve freedom not subjugation
Ukraine is here for the same reason Israel is, both are vassals of western imperialists that help secure western interests in their respective regions. No trolling here.
The US and UK are far more oppressive with far more atrocities globally than either the USSR or PRC. Nobody is trying to point to other countries being bad to say that excuses oppression, but that the actual differences between socialist countries and imperialist ones is massive.
Ukraine–the county literally being invaded by Russia–is an imperialist, war mongering tyrant? Get the fuck out of here with this slop. Could’ve just left it with the main flags, but throwing Ukraine’s flag in there is legit braindead Chinese/Russian trolling.
“How can they not be a Good Guy if they’re fighting a Bad Guy!”
Liberals continue to get there politics from capeshit.
Just openly admitting that you see all foreigners as interchangeable villains.
Any open war is an absolute worst thing any country can do.
And by opening a conflict, it makes the other side automatically looking better. Irregardless of any history or precedens.
Specially if it drags for years. Just go back and let it be.
An open war is absolutely not even close to the worst thing a country can do
What is?
Just go home and let those guys keep bombing their own citizens, they’ll figure it out on their own
And don’t even get me started on intervening with a country commiting active genocide, that’s their business
Fucking yes.
Provide aid to those affected, open corridors so people can run away, but never start a full scale war.
Fuck everyone who has ever done that, way more than anyone else.
I was being sarcastic, you’re a child
Okay, you have now chosen neutrality in the face of genocide. You are a Good German
Uh, what? Look at the context of this post, jackass. The meme is trying to portray Russia as a misunderstood good guy while everyone else is evil. I agree with most of the evil flags being there rightfully, but Ukraine is literally defending itself from unjustified invasion. Jfc, it’s crazy this has to be explained. Just look at the entire history of Russia’s aggression and bullying of Ukraine and try to tell me with a straight face that they’re unjustified in defending themselves from a foreign aggressor.
The flag of Russia isn’t even in the meme, “jackass.” The flag of the USSR is, though sadly it hasn’t existed for a few decades now. Like most clueless liberals happily drowning in propaganda, you are falsely equating modern capitalist Russia with the USSR.
And that’s not even getting into the fact that even modern Russia (whose flag appears nowhere in this image, genius) was wholly justified in entering the civil war that had already been ongoing inside Ukraine on behalf of the eastern regions of Ukraine whose civilians were being slaughtered by the Ukrainian government’s militias. But I admit that it’s hard to keep a straight face when talking to someone who uses NATO buzzwords like “unjustified foreign aggressor” because I keep having to facepalm.
Begging liberals to stop thinking of the world in terms of “good guys and bad guys” like overgrown toddlers and start looking at things in terms of cause and effect like adults
Kiev is run by Bandera-upholding Neo-Nazis that took power in the western-backed Euromaidan coup in 2014. Since then, 13,000+ civilians in the Donbass region have been killed by the Kiev regime, which is why Donetsk and Luhansk voted to secede. Communists generally support Russian intervention to protect the DPR and LPR against the western-backed fascists, who shortly before Russian intervention had ammassed huge forces to invade the Donbass region and retake it.
Ukraine is supported by the west for similar reasons as Israel, they are governed by the far-right and serve western interests in their respective regions.
No it doesn’t, you’re strawmanning
You think being invaded automatically makes a country good?
Seriously? The ussr and russia are completly different countries with a different political and ecenomic agenda the meme is by no means supporting the russian federation, it is supporting the ussr.
Ukraine is a vassal of western imperialists, similar to Israel.
So it makes it okay for a foreign country to invade them without just cause?
There was just cause. The Kiev regime has killed 13,000 civilians in the Donbass region, and had amassed huge amounts of troops to retake the seperatist regions shortly before Russian intervention stopped the invasion.
No, it makes it okay for a foreign country to invade with just cause when there was…
Is eight years of ethnic cleansing, three broken treaties and potential nukes in the hands of a nazi junta not “just cause” enough for you?
Ukraine isn’t imperialist; it’s a vassal of US empire.
How would you come to that conclusion?
The west treats Ukraine like they do Israel. After the western-supported Euromaidan coup in 2014, they’ve armed millitant Banderites to crack down on communists and geopolitical adversaries of the west.
Its government came to power as a result of a US-backed coup, for starters.
edit: For the record, I upvoted you because your question is fair and valid if you don’t know the history and context of the situation. And the western media where many people understandably (if sadly) get their information from will never provide that history and context. That is why we get these confidently ignorant people coming into threads like this gobsmacked that anyone can deny what they see as the obvious truth of Russia’s “unjustified invasion by a foreign aggressor.”
If the US is running the show then yeah it’s definitely imperialism, we’ve very clearly succeeded in mongering up a war there, and I do recall some pretty unambiguous reports of the current regime in Ukraine directly suppressing opposition parties and suspending elections
Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll. But not even the Soviet Union, China, US, UK all the other does not excuse them from their atrocities. They are all bad, it does not matter if a Communist or a Capitalist is oppressing you, oppression is oppression. Trying to excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument. People deserve freedom not subjugation
Good job, that’s exactly the understanding and framing that the Council on Foreign Relations wants you to have.
Nobody is making such an argument.
Ok then, that was always allowed.
There are a few critical flaws here.
Ukraine is here for the same reason Israel is, both are vassals of western imperialists that help secure western interests in their respective regions. No trolling here.
The US and UK are far more oppressive with far more atrocities globally than either the USSR or PRC. Nobody is trying to point to other countries being bad to say that excuses oppression, but that the actual differences between socialist countries and imperialist ones is massive.
Uhuh
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I bet your hand instinctively went to gift them gold before you wrote this
Whoops, forgot I was on and ml instance. Don’t try to be reasonable in an ml instance