• notaviking@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll. But not even the Soviet Union, China, US, UK all the other does not excuse them from their atrocities. They are all bad, it does not matter if a Communist or a Capitalist is oppressing you, oppression is oppression. Trying to excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument. People deserve freedom not subjugation

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      16 hours ago

      There are a few critical flaws here.

      1. Ukraine is here for the same reason Israel is, both are vassals of western imperialists that help secure western interests in their respective regions. No trolling here.

      2. The US and UK are far more oppressive with far more atrocities globally than either the USSR or PRC. Nobody is trying to point to other countries being bad to say that excuses oppression, but that the actual differences between socialist countries and imperialist ones is massive.

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      22 hours ago

      They are all bad

      Good job, that’s exactly the understanding and framing that the Council on Foreign Relations wants you to have.

      Trying to excuse your oppression does it too is not a valid argument.

      Nobody is making such an argument.

      People deserve freedom not subjugation

      Ok then, that was always allowed.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      23 hours ago

      Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll.

      excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument.

      Uhuh