• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Socialism/Communism/Anarchism. Barely anyone who actually understands them and the theory supporting them hates them, but tons of people have been fed Red Scare propaganda on the matter.

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      8 months ago

      Well, those who most benefit from the status quo also understand those concepts quite well, but oppose them.

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        8 months ago

        I think most real-life examples have been plagued by corruption to the point that they fall into a different category altogether.

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          8 months ago

          Historical examples, like Revolutionary Catalonia for Anarchism, and the USSR, Cuba, Maoist China, Vietnam, etc. for Marxism-Leninism, absolutely count as Socialist and should be learned from, both the good and bad.

          If you dismiss them as “not real Socialism,” you fail to learn from what did work in those instances, like literacy rates and life expectancy skyrocketing. If you dismiss the bad, you make the equal mistake of not accounting for the flaws in systems like Soviet Democracy, which resulted in a corrupt Politburo with outsized power.

          Study them in detail and find what to take and what to leave behind.

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            8 months ago

            communism is a classless stateless moneyless society. is that how you’d describe any of those societies? i wouldn’t. because it’s not true. but there are certainly anarchist and communist societies that have existed.

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        8 months ago

        Cuba, a poor blockaded small island nation, has a higher life expectancy than the global hegemon and richest nation ever

        The USSR went from a monarchist backwater to a industrial society, defeating the nazis and sending the first satellite into space, in the span of 40 years.

        China, under socialism, is now on track to shatter US hegemony through the power of socialist economic management and mutually beneficial cooperation.