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Dessalines@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies

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Dessalines@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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    UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child

    Which Country is the Greatest Threat to Peace? (Gallup, 2018)

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      UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

      Fun fact: The US votes against that one because it prohibits giving the death penalty to minors.

      Yeah.

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        I mean it’s not surprising in the least, well maybe that they do go into such technicalities while killing millions of children around the world.

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        Hey hey, it’s not JUST about that!

        It’s also because it classifies child marriage as abuse. You can still get married to or marry off your child as young as 12 in some states.

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      Italy beefing with Afghanistan in 2018, smh even America had moved on

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      Ukrainians viewing the US only to be used by them to fight a proxy war is sad to see.

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    Canada abstained? What the fuck, hosers?

    Edit: wait all/most of Europe as well? WTF

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      As a Canadian, Canada has way more Nazis than people realize and the broader government tends pretend we don’t have a Nazi problem while certain politicians are full on embracing them (just look at Danielle Smith). It’s not as bad as in the US, but that’s a really low bar and isn’t exactly praiseworthy.

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        It’s amazing how Canada giving a standing ovation to a literal SS member has been so quickly memory holed.

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        I’ve always preferred for people like this to self-identify so we know who they are. Creating a silence where hatred lives has never struck me as a good approach, but I get the argument that allowing hate speech unchecked can cause people to be swayed. On the other hand, it’s always terrific to see people running for office or otherwise aspiring to positions of power being thwarted by the classic surfacing of a picture of them showing their true colors…

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      Canada has a large diaspora of Ukrainian Nazi sympathizers. They famously gave a Ukrainian Nazi a standing ovation in parliament.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/canada-speaker-apologizes-ukraine-nazi-veteran-honored-rcna117125

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        This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine.

        • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
        • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
        • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
        • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
        • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
        • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
        • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
        • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
        • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
        • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
        • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
        • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
        • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
        • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
        • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
        • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
        • History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
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          and I’m sure that from, say, 1991 to 2021, there were a lot of pictures of fascists, nazis, and other far-right riff-raff taken in Russia.

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        Damn, all of south america, africa, and asia are russian bots now. /s

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        Because they’re US puppets

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        Got a source for that?

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    Always the same map.


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    Equal shame for all the countries that abstained. There is not a damn chance any country is genuinely unsure how they want to vote so an abstain vote in this case is just “I want to vote against but am too embarrassed to.”

    Which happens to be the entire West, not a single country commonly considered “Western” voted in favour. Surprise surprise

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      We had a shitstorm in Poland over this, it’s extremely shameful that a country that suffered so much from nazism did voted like that, but government just responded “EU decided this”

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        Absolutely, the only country that might have suffered more at the hands of the Nazis is the Soviet Union. In raw numbers Poland has the 3rd largest number of deaths in WW2, in % of 1939 population it is first.

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    Either the map is wrong, or the header is wrong, because that is not Germany.

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    Love these colonizer index maps

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    It’s funny because it’s the same map as all the “Free world vs unfree world” maps

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    When your support for a country is so blind and unconditional that you can support genocide.

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    Abstaining knowing the US will vote no is also voting no.

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    Statement of the Spanish public TV RTVE in Eurovision

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    So…. Anyone want to sponsor me for a work visa outside the USA? This ship is sinking and I’m surrounded by racist assholes apparently, and I want out!! Seriously….

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      Getting a TEFL/TESOL certification is probably easiest way to go about it. Most countries require a bachelor’s degree to be there on a work visa outside of some circumstances. It still wont be “easy” but itll be easier than trying to sell a skillset thats redundant in a EFL country. Beware of scams and look for accreditation

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    Why the hell did Russia vote better than Europe? We need some better people in office.

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      Its because europe is ruled by the usa empire

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    That map shows the US and Türkiye as red.

    I shouldn’t try to read maps when I’m sick

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      Ukraine is Türkiye???

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        idea: convince Turks that Ukraine is actually turkey and make them go to war with russia

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          Considering how many times in the past Turkey lost to Russia i think they would at least doublecheck this lol

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      that’s ukraine.

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      “If Russia says Nazis are bad, than Nazis must be good!”

      Liberal politics is just reaction.

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        I love it, it leads to epic blunders like having an homage to a nazi in Canada because he fought the russians.

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          There’s at least one Nazi who fought in the SS buried in the Arlington Cemetery in DC.

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          Yeah, but they just expunge that from their collective memory.

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        “If Russia says combating the glorification of Nazis are bad, they might be using too many modifiers.”

        fyp

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          So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

          Maybe we can get it proposed by Israel instead, then it would be a good guy presenting it because they only invade non-white countries

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              Russia wrote it for a reason. Think for a few seconds on why that might be.

              Because NATO put a bunch of Nazis in its command structure and the U.S. has backed various fascists countless times in the last 80 years, so it would put the western alliance in an embarrassing spot.

              That’s like half of politics: trying to embarass your opponents into backing off various positions.

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              So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

              I’m anti-imperialism, but unlike some of y’all I (rhetorically) oppose all imperialism not just western imperialism.

              “Unlike you, I believe that all lives matter, not just black ones”

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                  And even if it is actually good, the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

                  Elaborate?

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                  I’m just assuming it isn’t since Russia sponsored it.

                  Ok, I’m just going to not read your comments and assume they’re bad because your a westerner.

                  the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

                  What a disgusting thing to say.

                  You’re not acting in good faith.

                  Can I ask a serious question? Who is it that told you idiots that any disagreement is “bad faith”? Because you all deploy this exact phrase, word for word, any time anyone disagrees with you. It’s your favourite thought terminating cliche.

                  Drawing a false equivalency between “all lives matter” and “all colonialism is bad”.

                  It’s a completely apt equivalence, you just don’t want it to be.

                  Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine is bad. Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is bad. America is bad. All three things can be true at once, the world isn’t black and white. Seriously what level of Reddit-brain must you have to try to say stuff like this.

                  What the fuck is this complete non-sequitor? Not to mention it runs counter to your position up to know (“if Russia says Nazis bad, then Nazis good”)

                  the world isn’t black and white.

                  Your whole argument is that Russia is bad, so anything they do is bad! That’s the most black and white argument imaginable!

                  I should really just mute this whole conversation. I’m gonna look for the button.

                  Google Satre’s quote about anti-Semites

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                  Russia is at war with nazis currently. Of course they have the most to gain from condemning nazism.

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      I’m guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

      Pretty funny how you saw that all of Latin America, Africa, and Asia voted against genocide, and your first reaction is to call them russian bots.

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      We can’t condemn the Nazis because if we condemn the Nazis people will think we’re Nazis. When people see that we won’t condemn the Nazis, that’s how they’ll know we aren’t Nazis.

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      Lol stay stupid patriot

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