I’m sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
How the hell do people get jobs online? I’ve only ever landed a job in person.
I don’t know. I’ve been applying for jobs for seven years online, and I haven’t gotten a fucking thing.
I have 30, 20, 15, and 10 years of experience in the four major career fields I pursue, and I can never, not once not ever, get even a reply back, let alone an explanation as to why I wouldn’t fit the role.
I mean how many jobs have you applied to online? I think about 1 in 100 applications leading to an interview is around standard, although some people will get lucky.
Also the reason we don’t explain why you didn’t get the job is because given hundreds of applications, that would take hours to do (I personally only look at a resume for 10+ seconds anyways) and we don’t want to open ourselves to legal retaliation
lol, wow
I know right?
Some say “If you don’t have a job, your only job is to get a job”
Others say “Time is money”
Well, if I waste my time filing 100 applications, why ain’t I getting paid for my time filing applications?
Filing applications isn’t a job, it’s a chore, and one that doesn’t even pay, unless it’s that 1 out of 100 or whatever when you actually do land a job.
Admittedly this isn’t the worst story I’ve heard, but it would be nice if you could appreciate that you’re dealing with human beings, and provide some feedback.
Have you had anyone take a look at your resume? When was the last time you reviewed it? Is it at least somewhat visually appealing? How long is it?
Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to “customize” each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.
I’m not the one to give advice on this, really, but I’ve heard of people having a lot of success with networking and reaching out directly to recruiters/managers/ect.
I agree with this advice of having someone take a look at your resume. Way back, I had an older friend of mine with experience managing CV’s help me work on mine and even the base template of my cover letters. I’ve done a number of interviews, mostly unsuccessful though I’m happy with where I’m at now, and one consistent thing I’ve heard is that I have an impressive resume, and I’m forever thankful to my friend for helping me put it together.
I don’t quite agree on customizing your CV for every submission, but I do do this for my cover letter/correspondence.
Also, yes, reaching out directly to places you want to work with has worked for me a couple of times. If there are hiring/networking events for your field, even online ones, I’d recommend that too. Best success I’ve had landing interviews is through these kind of events and I’ve only done online ones.
Honestly, my resumé does need a bit of a refresher, but I also think it would start looking more like a scattered mess after 2017.
I used to work in computer, tablet and cell phone repair, for a lousy fucking $10 an hour though. So I got sick of that and basically quit when I started getting side opportunities to occasionally fix hotel door locks for $20 an hour, but that was randomly sporadic.
These days, I get by with whatever odd jobs come up, which range from occasional vehicle repairs to helping elderly disabled people get on and off the toilet.
But I’ll be damned if I’m about to go back into fixing $500 devices for a lousy $10 an hour, when one single accidental slip of a soldering iron might cost me an entire week’s pay.
I’d rather sharpen lawnmower blades or some shit than gamble with fixing expensive ass devices that I’d never even use myself.
Unfortunately, it may be a good idea to “customize” each submission by incorporating keywords from the actual listing into your resume.
This is usually a bad idea, since quantity > quality for most people trying to get a professional job. But I do agree with the rest of your comment
In-person interviews are not a thing anymore since the pandemic, from what I’ve seen. LinkedIn is the place to go. Recruiters will schedule a call and they’ll usually remind you an email is on the way.
I don’t want to work. I want to take a year off. Yet, I got a job interview and I’m not even looking.
I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
It sucks, but this is kinda on you. Spam filters are pretty terrible at what they do. And with everyone and their dog adding “AI” to their security tools, it’s only getting worse. There is a fuckton of spam being sent to email addresses all the time. And the spammers are doing their level best to make that spam look more and more like legitimate emails. So, the terrible spam filters and crappy AI are hard pressed to filter out all the crap and not catch legitimate emails. And this problem with false positives is one of the reasons a lot of spam still sneaks through, most of the filters tend to err towards false negatives over false positives. Still, false positives will happen. If you are expecting an important email, you’re going to need to dive into the cesspit which is your spam folder regularly and make sure that email didn’t end up there.
As for the issues around job hunting, ya that whole process can suck. Depending on your skillset, experience and job criteria, the pool can get pretty small pretty fast. And online job hunting means that companies are getting hundreds of resumes for postings. On top of that, companies have stopped training and don’t do anything to build internal talent pipelines. So, if you are earlier in your career, you get stuck in a loop of not having experience, so no one will hire you to get experience. It just sucks and I don’t have an answer for you, only to keep plugging away and understand it’s a numbers game. Eventually the dice will come up for you, but that “eventually” can really, really suck.
Idk how you even get a job these days without connections or an online app
Have someone that’s working in the field you’re applying for take a look at your resume and cover letters.
My wife works for the govt so their resumes have a distinctly long look and formatting to them. I’ve bothered my wife plenty of times with a friend’s resume and she has sent people my way.
It’s a terrible system but since it’s a shitty numbers game you might as well stack whatever you can in your favor
- I report any email that is spam as spam, so my inbox is quite clean and I don’t miss anything
- I applied to ~600 positions, averaging about 100 positions an hour. You just have to be faster with the application process; don’t customize your resume, don’t read the job description, just apply
My problem with that is that Google has a fucking mind all its own and will automatically file whatever the hell it feels like as spam, and I have no clue how to change those options, especially when I have no idea what server to expect an interview schedule email to even come from.
For what it’s worth, I’ve never once had an interview request or professional email go to spam on Google mail. Not once in like 15 years.
Thank you for the useless information. My Google account is over 20 years old, back when GMail was still in beta testing.
How the fuck do you change the spam filter options?
Why would I tell you after you posted such a dickhead reply?
Because your ‘information’ is completely useless and doesn’t provide any answer to my question.
Apparently Google doesn’t even have an answer or solution to the question either.
I’m not fucking stupid, I actually do know how to research things…
Ok cool man. Enjoy continuing to miss interviews I guess. Cya.
Cya - Dave Mirra
Yeah, I’m a BMX rider too, bicycle and vehicle technician as well.
I don’t really need an online application anyways, especially if the response is gonna be auto-filed in the trash.
Fuck Google, fuck AI. Thus far, I’ve gotten more regular work by just showing up in person and showing I know how to turn a wrench and get my hands dirty.
You just keep applying. I got my current job by applying on the website.
Also yea, check your fucking spam folder or try to make the filter less aggressive. It’s not good if you’re missing interviews.
How do you even change the spam filter options?
When I started my Google account, GMail was still in beta. Where the fuck are their options?
I use the Spam Digest addon. It sends me a daily email and i quickly glance to see if something went to spam that wasn’t suppose to. I’m sure you could do this with a daily reminder. But I wouldn’t.