This is a debate, not an argument, let’s be adults about this. [Insert political joke]

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    9 months ago

    UK are safest, EU are both practical and almost as safe (as it supports a variety of plugs, both with and without grounding), and US is complete and utter garbage built for garbage voltage. Plus, the US one looks scared.

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        9 months ago

        Try going to Japan. They took the US design, but most outlets there don’t have the grounding plug (in hotels it was practically non-existent). My travel adapter didn’t even work xP

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          9 months ago

          It’s the same in The Philippines. One place I stayed had a three-way splitter & I snuck my laptop charger in the top, just letting the ground hang out. Luckily my gears has gotten lighter & with GaN chargers, two-prong is just fine.

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      9 months ago

      UK are safest

      Until you step on a plug…

      You thought Lego was bad on bare feet? Hoo boy

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        9 months ago

        At least the UK one is blunt. I’m trying, without success, to find a picture of the old style telephone (and my modem) connectors we had here in Norway. Imagine the UK power plug, but the pins are pointy. I’ve drawn blood stepping on these. I would run a marathon on Lego to avoid stepping on one of those again. Luckily they were gradually replaced by wallmounted RJ11 (or RJ45 if you had ISDN) during the 90’s.

        EDIT: Found it.

        FFFFUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuu

        Stepping on one feels like getting shanked under your foot by Poseidon and his trident.

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      9 months ago

      The UK ones are only safe from an electric point of view. As stepping hazards for shoe-less feet they are only slightly less lethal than Lego bricks

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    9 months ago

    The Brits have undoubtedly the best outlets from a safety perspective, despite their size. North American outlets are garbage by basically all measures. European plugs are weirdly round, but very functional.

    My two (€/100)s

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    9 months ago

    I am going to argue Swiss type J.

    It’s compact, safe, and easy to use.

    Before anyone says UK I’m going to say they’re too bulky to be worth it. A usb charger for a UK plug is just so big and bulky that it’s not worth it. The Schuko plug falls into the same category.

    If we are allowing future potential plugs I would argue for IEC 60906-1. It’s basically the same as Swiss type J but with very minor changes.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1

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      9 months ago

      I definitely agree about the UK plug. I don’t know how to describe it, but it looks like a caricature of what a plug is supposed to look like.

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      9 months ago

      Swiss is interesting. It lacks some of the inherent safety of the SchuKo style, but it’s also far more compact, while keeping most safety features. I guess it’s a good compromise, which is often the crown achievement in engineering anyways.

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    9 months ago

    I’m always up for a bit of controversy. I like the basic ungrounded American plug (NEMA 1-15).

    It has no safety features. Just about every American has shocked themselves with it once, but very few have done it twice. I like it because it’s compact, and that leads to some conveniences:

    • It works great in folding designs for portable power supplies. I’ve seen folding implementations of Europlug and even British plugs, but they’re not as compact.
    • It works great for ultra-compact splitters and many-outlet power strips. Yes, you can be dumb and overload these, but we have a whole lot of low-power electronics in the modern world such that it’s not hard to have a dozen devices each pulling less than an Amp. Multi-port USB power supplies are starting to mitigate this a bit.
    • It doesn’t have shutters (by default), so it’s easy to plug things in. Every plug type I’ve encountered with shutters takes a lot of force and sometimes binds.
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        9 months ago

        You haven’t? I guess most people I know were dumber as kids that you were.

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          9 months ago

          Are you saying they shocked themselves plugging something in? Or putting something else into the outlet.

          The plug itself is not really easy to shock yourself on, you’d have to intentionally try to do it by putting something behind it to bridge the pins, or have a broken plug or something, so that’s why I am saying this seems incorrect.

          I definitely knew some dumbasses that would attempt to creat a power arc, but they were certainly not the majority.

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            9 months ago

            It’s possible to touch the pins with your finger when the plug is partially inserted into the socket. It’s especially possible with child-size fingers.

            Many of the other plug designs, like Europlug have half-insulated pins to prevent this.

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    9 months ago

    Hey did you get that idea from the coffee shop thread? Someone was asking about weird outlets shown in a picture.

    My answer for the question is obviously the UK standard.

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      My answer for the question is obviously the UK standard.

      Also knows as the caltrop plug because it the damn things always fall spikes up and hurt whoever is trying to move through a room in dim light.

      The correct answer is of course SchuKo plugs / CEE 7/7. If you check plugs used in the world you notice it has a huge spread of compatible plugs, as it can fit SchuKo plugs of two types and Euro plugs of two types. It also has all security features, including a raised ground that connects the ground before the power can come into contact.

      It’s tough to truly pull favourites with power sockets - you just use what you got - but if I had to pick one that’ll be decreed to be used worldwide, it’d be this one. For sure. Note how the 7/7 variant has a lot of interoperability with other existing plug variations, too. It can for example use the french outlet-ground-pin, not only the german-style clamps, all with the same plug. Outlets can be designed to be compatible with swiss plugs, IIRC. Danish ones I’m not sure about, though.

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        9 months ago

        Schuko and CEE pull out when pulled straight, and are annoying as fuck with vacuums and power tools so UK one beats them

  • Catsrules@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Honestly USB-C. It is getting added to electrical outlets. Super small, basically impossible to get electrocuted being low voltage DC.

    Works in every country.

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        9 months ago

        True but how often are you unplugging and plugging in a washing machine?

        Generally speaking higher powered devices have a higher chance you leave them plugged in.