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    Run Harris. Run Newsom. Run Obama. Run Kennedy. Hell, run Gore.

    There’s so many options here. This is the DNC’s election to lose.

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        I was just wondering what it’d be like to have a McKinsey president.

        I guess his version of the Project 2025 would be to outsource the entire federal bureaucracy to India?

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    I just don’t understand the pro-Democrat party crowd’s strategy. Why do they insist on keeping Biden as the Democrat candidate when that clown keeps nuking it’s own odds of winning more and more everyday with his stupid shenanigans? If the peoples who keep berating everyone to vote for Biden see Trump as some sort of ultimate threat, why do they insist on using a candidate that even they admit is hated by most of his own voter base against Trump? That sound like a terrible strategy to me. Shouldn’t they be mad at the Democrat party for taking such risk by insisting on a candidate so widely despised? Why don’t they call for a candidate that is actually likely to beat Trump? Why do they keep berating the folks who have made it clear that they won’t be voting for Biden under any circumstances when the over 60% of the Americans who don’t participate in politics are right there?

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      Because Biden is the consensus candidate of party bosses: he’s pro-genocide, militarist to the core and will not upset the bipartisan consensus. If he drops out, someone actually decent might get nominated. You can’t have that.

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    To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.

    Calling Kamala “Vice President Trump” is kind of hilarious though.

    Both of these together paint a troubling picture. Why is Biden confusing people who are supposed to be his closest allies with those who are considered to be his bitter rivals? This was supposed to be his big press conference where he proves he’s still mentally fit to be president, and he totally blew it. Somebody get him outta there, Biden isn’t fit to be president and the sooner we can admit that and move on the better it will be for this country. The gaslighting in full denial of this is incredibly dangerous, and likely driven by whoever it is that’s actually in charge and wants to stay that way (all signs point to Jill Biden, who last I checked was not elected president.)

    Apparently Biden has not had a full cabinet meeting since last year. These are the people who can invoke 25th amendment on him, and it’s looking extremely suspicious all of a sudden that he’s been avoiding them, and for such an insanely long period of time too!

    For those of us who have had to support an elder family member through times of mental decline, the condition is extremely apparent now, and the administration can no longer hide it. Elders often resist or get angry when confronted about necessary changes, but it’s for their own good. In this case, it’s also so we can ward off a fascist takeover of the US. Come on dem leadership, it’s time to actually be the adults in the room and handle this.

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    There are some situations that you just can’t “spin” your way out of

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      There’s probably more one can do but Biden is clearly struggling to think clearly. It’s kinda standard now but ancient Dems clinging to power instead of retiring.

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    Yeah this is a bullshit headline. He said the wrong thing. Just way less concerning than what is implied.

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      Well the headline isn’t factually wrong, and no, 99% of any one actually watched the debate.

      The headline was possible because of Biden. And honestly, this wasn’t even his worst mistake of the press conference.

      That god-awful final answer… It was basically him saying he’s too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He’s losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.

      I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.

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          Oh fuck I forgot about that one.

          Yes. You are very popular in a country which has become a global pariah and is why you have effectively lost support entirely with any one under the age of 30.

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            It’s almost like he’s torpedoing his campaign on purpose. Optics wouldn’t be as important if the US had mandatory voting, meaning even alienated voters would either vote Biden or Third Party more often than the Trump crowd, but he’s killing voter interest in general.

            2024 will be 2016 - 2.

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              I mean he’s been Presidenting in a vaccuum until now. Biden is clueless, and its only now that reality is catching up with him.

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        The final answer had me screaming… “What?!? No one is telling you that it isn’t likely you’ll beat Trump?” He’s like… Well, if the polls show me in the negative… Someone needs to show him the polls.

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          Which is like, emblematic of THE ENTIRE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH BOTH BIDEN AND ALL DEMOCRATS!!!

          A complete and utter detachment from reality. Like, JOE. You are fucking losing this election for everyone. And the fact that he doesn’t know or acknowledge it…

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            On the flip side I got ten emails from Democrats yesterday telling me that our entire country stands on a precipice and the whole thing pretty much rides on me making a donation.

            So you know, they’re showing some urgency on that side of it.

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      No the headline is correct.

      Biden walked off the stage and apparently people were screaming Zelensky instead of Putin so then Biden walked back and corrected it.

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        Ah yes, he actually thought that they are the same people and that Trump has actually been his VP. Yep. That. It’s not a slip of the tongue, nope, it’s advanced dementia. /s

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    Did he say that he’s going to immediately turn the U.S. into a Theocratic Dictatorship? No?

    Then I do not give a single fuck, and people that do are probably bots. Fuck off Billionaire newspaper.

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    One thing that I love from this thread…the number of conservative trolls. They are fucking terrified that Biden is going to win. So bad that they are pushing this absolute bullshit of doubt and worry about Biden.

    Anyone that’s actually paying attention to Biden knows that the dude has been getting shit done even with a stalled congress. Any one that’s even remotely paying attention to the election is literally not going to elect a fascist, and people are absolutely starting to pay attention. Look at the Project 2025 bullshit. Look at how much people are starting to realize how fucking serious this is. Even Trump has desperately tried to distance himself from it, and can’t seem to keep dodging now that speeches and videos of him talking about it starting to surface.

    Bidens okay. Democrats have backed him. He’s not dropping out.

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      If you think the only reason people would be against Biden running at this point is because they’re secret Republican shills, I genuinely think you may need to spend more time offline.

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        Do I wish there was a better candidate running? Sure. But I’ll still be voting Biden no matter what. I’m also not going to spend my energy talking about how shit he is because all that does is help an actual fucking fascist pedophile into office. So not really sure what else your aim could be, cause if your a Democrat it’s a fucking stupid one.

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          Plenty of people are looking at the data, reaching the conclusion that Biden realistically can’t beat Trump, and calling for an alternate strategy.

          They’d say your aim was a fucking stupid one, because they see running Biden as a sure path to Trump, versus an admittedly unlikely but still possible hail-mary of running a different candidate.

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          My aim is to replace Biden with someone who can actually win. Bidens team is on the offensive trying to claim he’s got the best shot but that’s a load of hot garbage. I think you’d be surprised at how many people voted for anything not trump last time around. This time around his cognitive decline has become so blatantly obvious that by even defending it you destroy the democratic party’s credibility and as a result become Trumps real enabler. The election will be decided by a few swing states and a small number of undecided voters living in those states. Telling them they are wrong about what the see and hear from Biden is gaslighting plain and simple. If democrats want to differentiate themselves as the morally superior party then lying out of fear isn’t a good look. The situation is what it is. The best chance they have is to replace Biden as soon as possible. Every day that passes decreases the nominees chances. Also, I really hope they hold a primary vote because just telling voters they get Vice President Harris makes this feel less like a democracy and will definitely alienate enough voters to throw the whole election.

          Final thought, as long as we have a two party system nothing will really get better. The best we can hope for is not worse. It’s very telling that so many democratic congress people are afraid to challenge the party. If an elected representative is afraid to act on their conscience then it’s obvious we don’t have a real democracy.

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        It still comes down to voting for either a guy who mumbled and stumbled on some words or a convicted felon, pedophile, con man, hedonistic fascist.

        Gonna be really difficult to figure out who to vote for…a real fucking challenge.

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            I 100% agree. But which party is more likely to actually work towards a goal like that? Would Conservatives ever allow for ranked choice voting? People have every right to complain about Biden, but all it really does is make things easier for an orange fascist toget elected