• Alteon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    One thing that I love from this thread…the number of conservative trolls. They are fucking terrified that Biden is going to win. So bad that they are pushing this absolute bullshit of doubt and worry about Biden.

    Anyone that’s actually paying attention to Biden knows that the dude has been getting shit done even with a stalled congress. Any one that’s even remotely paying attention to the election is literally not going to elect a fascist, and people are absolutely starting to pay attention. Look at the Project 2025 bullshit. Look at how much people are starting to realize how fucking serious this is. Even Trump has desperately tried to distance himself from it, and can’t seem to keep dodging now that speeches and videos of him talking about it starting to surface.

    Bidens okay. Democrats have backed him. He’s not dropping out.

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      If you think the only reason people would be against Biden running at this point is because they’re secret Republican shills, I genuinely think you may need to spend more time offline.

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        Do I wish there was a better candidate running? Sure. But I’ll still be voting Biden no matter what. I’m also not going to spend my energy talking about how shit he is because all that does is help an actual fucking fascist pedophile into office. So not really sure what else your aim could be, cause if your a Democrat it’s a fucking stupid one.

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          Plenty of people are looking at the data, reaching the conclusion that Biden realistically can’t beat Trump, and calling for an alternate strategy.

          They’d say your aim was a fucking stupid one, because they see running Biden as a sure path to Trump, versus an admittedly unlikely but still possible hail-mary of running a different candidate.

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          My aim is to replace Biden with someone who can actually win. Bidens team is on the offensive trying to claim he’s got the best shot but that’s a load of hot garbage. I think you’d be surprised at how many people voted for anything not trump last time around. This time around his cognitive decline has become so blatantly obvious that by even defending it you destroy the democratic party’s credibility and as a result become Trumps real enabler. The election will be decided by a few swing states and a small number of undecided voters living in those states. Telling them they are wrong about what the see and hear from Biden is gaslighting plain and simple. If democrats want to differentiate themselves as the morally superior party then lying out of fear isn’t a good look. The situation is what it is. The best chance they have is to replace Biden as soon as possible. Every day that passes decreases the nominees chances. Also, I really hope they hold a primary vote because just telling voters they get Vice President Harris makes this feel less like a democracy and will definitely alienate enough voters to throw the whole election.

          Final thought, as long as we have a two party system nothing will really get better. The best we can hope for is not worse. It’s very telling that so many democratic congress people are afraid to challenge the party. If an elected representative is afraid to act on their conscience then it’s obvious we don’t have a real democracy.

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        4 months ago

        It still comes down to voting for either a guy who mumbled and stumbled on some words or a convicted felon, pedophile, con man, hedonistic fascist.

        Gonna be really difficult to figure out who to vote for…a real fucking challenge.

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            I 100% agree. But which party is more likely to actually work towards a goal like that? Would Conservatives ever allow for ranked choice voting? People have every right to complain about Biden, but all it really does is make things easier for an orange fascist toget elected