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I pay $20 a month to CPUSA now am I a good boy yet 🐶
While I think this is far too simplistic of a comparison. I will agree that the US is like nazi Germany if it was entirely run by barely functional idiots. The turd reich.
Lotta comments from accounts a few days old, or with less than 50 comments in several years. Interesting.
.world activated their strategic reserve
lol hong kong
Edit: if your best meme and viral defense of china is “america bad”, then it’s not good enough lmao
Edit: downvoting but not refuting? 😔 shocker
It’s good that Hong Kong is no longer a British colony.
Is it also good that citizens were brutalized for protesting?
Nope that’s bad. Cops hurting protesters is bad even when the protesters are wrong.
Less bad than the wrong protesters getting their way and Hong Kong staying a colony of the UK…but still bad, for sure.
Right… that’s what the protests were over. They were still a colony and not an autonomous zone with a local government which cooperated with the national government. They were protesting to stay a colony. 100%
Edit: how about everyone stops lying and just presents good faith arguments instead of easily dismissed attempts at conflating reality with some westerncentric fantasy.
Edit2: btw “harm reduction is okay and makes up for everything when it’s MY authoritarian camp perpetuating violence against innocents!”
Edit3: “our atrocities are justifiable because they serve the greater good! 🤓”
Who said atrocities are justifiable? Didn’t I just agree with you it was bad?
You’re the one that brought up Hong Kong as a “this was bad therefore it’s totally ridiculous to say anything positive about China.” I agree with the first part, but not the second nor the connection.
Maybe it’s not a majority, I don’t know, but at least some of the protesters were wishing to stay a UK colony; the Union Jack was much in evidence (which is pretty wild really). Or were those CPC provocateurs or something? If you tell me that was a vocal and ridiculous minority, that’s fine, I wasn’t there, I’ll believe you.
Look man, I’m happy people were brave and cool and protested for what they believed in, even if it’s not what I believe in, and it’s bad Chinese cops/authorities/whatever hurt them for it. I don’t know why that would mean I should think that saying good things about China is wrong. I also think the surveillance and mistreatment of the Uyghurs is bad…like way worse than what happened in Hong Kong. There are also lots of good things to say about China.
You don’t seem to understand the greater context.
This is a propaganda piece which intends to use America’s blatant authoritarianism, atrocities, etc as an opportunity to white wash China’s government as “comparatively good”.
It’s fine to talk about the good aspects of China. There’s no need to directly compare it to America unless you’re making propaganda.
Propaganda likes to ignore inconvenient truths and propagandists tend to downvote them.
Edit: tell me more about the Union Jack stuff. AFAIK Hong Kong had a locally elected government and it cooperated with the Chinese government as part of the Chinese government. No idea what you’re talking about, or why there was even a notion of them staying a “UK colony”. That just sounds like propaganda to me because, again, they literally had a locally elected government? Were there people that wanted to REJOIN the UK government?
I mean, I do understand that context; it is a propaganda piece portraying China as comparatively better than the US.
China is comparatively better than the U.S.
Making propaganda to that effect is good.
Everything is propaganda. You’re doing anti-China propaganda; I’m doing pro-China propaganda. with a veneer of nuance or whatever but my words have political meaning and so do yours…
I’ve never understood how any expression of political thought could not be propaganda… or that there’s an especially good/principled way to separate what you and me are doing from whatever you mean by propaganda…if it’s a government paying for it I really don’t think OP qualifies…or else the PRC should get its fuckin money back lol
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I’m neither American nor a liberal, but I suspect that American liberals agree wholeheartedly about your assessment about America.
Can we do the revolution now?
Do not confuse Technocracy with Socialism. While Chinese Technocracy is Socialist, Technocracy alone can be a massive problem.
Democracy is only as good as the voters. The average Chinese is better educated and a better citizen overall than the average USAmerican. Thus the difference in results. My experience with Chinese and USAians confirm this, even if anecdotal. I could have just missed the bad Chinese and was overexposed to bad USAians.
Democracy is only as good as the voters.
I wouldn’t know. I’ve never lived in one.
Western liberal democracies are structurally flawed, and despite the immense systemic advantage capital already enjoys, capital still needs to manipulate education, religion, and media to persuade people to vote against their own material interests. The result is a political landscape that, in many cases, produces outcomes more dysfunctional than those seen in some modern monarchies or even historic feudal systems—yet with the added disadvantage that many citizens remain unaware of their own diminished political and economic conditions, convinced they live in the freest societies on earth and that everything elsewhere must be worse. Concluding such a system is not truly democratic, or merely a democracy of the bourgeoisie is a valid conclusion, because whether systematic or through manipulation of education, religion and media, they are the only ones who benefit from it, and the majority have no means of getting what they want.
I know you already know this. This comment was meant for any lurker who doesn’t know. The people who think they are one election away from fixing the system if they would only voter harder.
And I know you know I know 😉
Also bourgeois/liberal democracy is the quintessence of adopting democratic aesthetics, forms, and language without any actual democratic function. No one can vote according to their interests, and no one’s votes actually influence policy.
The reason most modern imperialist states have evolved their own form of liberal democracy is because of how effective it is at mediating domestic capitalist contradictions so they can be externalized.
If the US were somehow a true functional democracy it would have evolved beyond capitalism decades ago.
“To decide once every few years which member of the ruling class is to repress and crush the people through parliament - such is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarianism, not only in parliamentary-constitutional monarchies, but also in the most democratic republics.”
― Vladimir Lenin, The State and Revolution
I am deeply concerned that this is getting worse, not better. I sincerely hope I’m totally wrong about this, but I see young “educated” Americans more and more being unable to think at all. The kids in university now are liberally using commercial LLMs to finish assignments. People are surrendering their ability to think to private corporations. Imagine in 10 years from now, a man who can’t pay his AI bill can no longer survive on his own. And even if he could, he could only ever do what the corporate model deems acceptable. Just fully giving up agency because agency is friction.
I can’t respond to this email without paying Sam Altman! I can’t wipe my ass without Grok!
I’m drunk. I’m sorry. I hate what is happening, and I am helpless to stop it.
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Is it? Why is China “bad”?
That picute of Chinese officals got mad aura, lol
I’m tired of being surrounded by propaganda. Do better.
Then you might want to get off the internet and live in the woods
Tempting
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we do
lmao the fuck you do
Once I stop reading “two things can be true at once” whenever your nazi pedophile rulers tell you something bad about the next country they want to destroy maybe I’ll believe you
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Waiting for Liberals to actually have a thought out response to the excellent resources the MLs of this community provide.
Something something square Something something tanks
Still waiting…
And don’t forget that China has billionaires!
