I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.

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    Lemmy is developed by communists, and Reddit banned a bunch of leftist subreddits like r/chapotraphouse, r/GenZedong, and r/TheDeprogram. As a consequence, a bunch of communists are on Lemmy by ratio compared to Reddit, though Lemmy.world is defederated and blocks 2/3rds of the major communist instances, so you can’t actually see them. They usually are on Lemmygrad.ml or Hexbear.net if you want to see the communist side of Lemmy.

    Lemmy.ml is the dev’s testing instance, so that’s why a lot of communists are here but also why it’s not defederated by Lemmy.world.

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        Here’s Lemmy.world explaining why. Essentially, for having stances common to communists (opposing western hegemony is a big one they took issue with). Lemmy.world is run by your standard DNC-style liberals, they generally oppose Marxism and communism, and uphold the DNC as good. Some are also zionists.

        Now, that’s my perspective as a communist. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, my perspective is as someone who reads theory, does light org work, etc. I’m not a fan of the DNC, I support socialist states, etc. Others may give a different perspective, but it’s also worth noting that there are entire drama communities dedicated to taking comments out of context, witch-hunting communists, etc and this is made even worse by defederation because it creates this “boogeyman” that .world can’t actually see.

        Hope that helps, honestly you can just scroll grad and hexbear yourself for a bit without making an account to see what’s up.

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          Thank you for the reasonable reply that didn’t attack my character for asking. Apparently, that’s too much to ask of some people.

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            No worries! A lot of people get emotionally invested in drama, which is why tons of the definitions you’ve been given for “tankie” are people that don’t actually exist. It’s like saying “communist but boogieman.” This creates the response from communists defending ourselves from slander, which is why this became a mess. Kinda like if you went into a random room and asked people what “woke” meant.

            Lemmy has few conservatives (outside of instances like sh.itjust.works), so the biggest ideological conflict is communist vs liberal, with anarchists kinda doing their own thing and aligning more or less with the former or the latter.

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          Shit, my comment got deleted, do you remember what it said? I can’t remember. Im sure it was probably something irritating for a communist…

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              Dont forget the past, lest youre doomed to repeat it.

              In 1950s everyone learned the horrors of a communist system, and now 70ish years later, those with 1st hand experience are mostly dead.

              I mean, yall confuse me. In your opinion, should we not have fought communism in the 50s?

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                In the 1950s, McCarthyite propagandists were spinning tall-tales and mythmaking about the world’s most effective system at rapidly improving living conditions and scientific development. 70ish years later, with the soviet archives (somewhat) opened up, we have much better evidence at just how awful the lies of the US Empire were, which was busy exporting genocide and terrorism worldwide in order to plunder and dominate the world.

                There’s no confusion here, the US Empire was the evil side in the Cold War, and evil won out. From genocide against Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, coups in Chile against democratically elected presidents in favor of dictators like Pinochet, brutal trade embargoes against countries like Cuba that dared to implement a more human-focused system, the US Empire was and still remains the most brutal and evil empire in history. Thankfully, imperialism is crumbling and this evil country is nearing its end. Hopefully after it falls, a socialist country can take its place.

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                  Im sorry but I have to harp on this statement again.

                  There’s no confusion here, the US Empire was the evil side in the Cold War, and evil won out.

                  I dont think your wrong that there is no confusion, if course America was the good side in the cold war. Russia literally almost started ww3 a few times, but saved by a few good men acting against orders if the russian empire.

                  Literally practically all of America would disagree with you? I think professors and scholars would disagree with you. I think historians and theologians would disagree with you.

                  Ahhh the reason you see no confusion is because all you hear is the propaganda from one side. Maybe try broadening your intake of information.

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                    No, the USSR was consistently on the side of disarmament. The US Empire constantly refused disarmament, and was willing to first-strike the USSR, which the USSR never pushed for. The USSR was not an empire either, it did not function by international plunder.

                    If your point is that I only hear propaganda from one side, that side is the pro-US Empire side. There’s no “communist propaganda” in schooling, work, media, etc. Everything I grew up in and work in is meant to reinforce that status quo.

                    If we are comparing the two globally, the USSR was a friend to the global south while the US Empire has friends in the global north, ie imperialist countries in Europe and a handful elsewhere.

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                  Its sentences like this that hurt your argument critically.

                  There’s no confusion here, the US Empire was the evil side in the Cold War, and evil won out.

                  “There’s no confusion here” ? You sure about that?

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                    Yes, I’m sure. Based on what we factually know, the US Empire was a brutal exporter of death and misery while it plundered the world. The soviets were responsible for the largest and most significant improvements in quality of life in history, and supporting liberation struggles world-wide. I’m aware that anti-communists exist, and that anti-communism is the status quo in the US Empire. I’m also aware that that’s because of decades of propagandizing and the fact that the US Empire needs imperialism to function.

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                  Im curious, how old are you? And im guessing you have been an American from birth? I’d appreciate it if you would indulge me… not trying to dox you

                  Edit: i am 41yo male east coast America

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                Tell me you’ve never tried to look into actual communist history without telling me you’ve never tried to look into actual communist history…