Personally: no & yes. For the latter, a legitimate court of law ought to laugh at this case. But that’s not what he is facing.

The subject came up in conversation, so I figured I would take the temperature here.

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    No it is extremely obvious that Luigi Mangione is innocent and they are trying to frame him. There is no evidence and the case has had many legal errors and tampering.

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    Honestly no, I feel the governments case is pretty thin and there are some serious questions about evidence. Honestly they might not even have the right guy, a masked man in manhattan could be anyone, Luigi really could have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is usually right. So obviously Bryan Johnson was killed by Charlie Kirk

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      Well…

      CK did want guns readily accessible. CK did say gun violence deaths were a sacrifice he was willing to make.

      Given the fact that Luigi might be pinned for the crime, it’s equaly likely that CK truly has had a larger share of responsibility in the killing at hand.

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    If he had actually done it I feel like he wouldn’t be getting railroaded like he is because they would have real evidence

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    I would say that there’s enough doubt about the situation that if I were on the jury, I don’t think I could in good conscience find him guilty.

    That being said, if the actual trial brought out really good evidence, we’ll see how it goes, but from what I’ve seen on the news? No.

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    Probably and yes. From what I have seen there’s too much incriminating evidence for it to all be faked without assuming a level of competence from those involved that is very improbable.

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      This

      Don’t get me wrong, ethically this situation becomes very complex, but let’s not kid ourselves: the evidence is unfortunately very strong. In fact this is one of the easier cases for the prosecution to try imo.

      To prove intent under the statute of Murder 2 in NY they have:

      • a weapon him
      • matching shell casings
      • video evidence
      • cellphone data linking him to a route away from the scene

      Cause of death is self-evident.

      There is no legal justification applicable here (self defense, …)

      There’s also a chance this will get a terrorism enhancement. Supporting evidence would be the targeted nature, the casings and manifesto.

      He can go for an insanity plea or extreme emotional disturbance, however this usually goes to the punishment phase and not the trial phase, making this almost irrelevant for the conviction.

      The one thing he has going for him is jury nullification. This is legally dubious and usually can and should not be argued, for very legitimate reasons; however the jury can make their decision basically without justification and therefore this is very plausible. The probability is a different question which is hard to answer.

      I do not like murder, but I sympathize a lot with him, however especially because of that I also have to keep it realistic and accept that legally the case against him is pretty strong.

      TL;DR there’s strong evidence against him, and if there’s no jury nullification he will most likely be convicted.