• MetalMachine@feddit.nl
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    The zionist nazi state has no right to exist. Just like nazi Germany had no right to exist. A state built on ethnic cleansing, stealing peoples land and their massacre is a state which should not exist.

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        Palestinians fighting for their homes, and their right to exist, are not terrorists. We should not let the ICC or any “official” body dictate morality for us; we know the Palestinian cause is a just one.

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        What I mean is one side is having their homes bombed and lives uprooted (or just lost altogether) while the other side watches from the side lines. Innocent civilians killed in the streets. Women, children, actual babies killed for money. Disgusting

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          I assume you mean the side having their homes bombed is the Palestinians? Since most of them have had their lives uprooted?

          But the other side (Israel) is not watching from the sidelines. Nearly 100% of their population works for or has worked for the military. If not, they arrest you.

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        What are these “sides” comprised of in your mind? Who specifically are you accusing of being a “terrorist”? In Palestine - the entire population? The ruling political party “Hamas”? The militarized subset of it, the “Al Qassam brigades?” Or only the specific members thereof who engaged in war crimes at any point - the few of that group who are still alive? What definition of “terrorism” are you using - the “using violence to influence political opinions” which characterizes every government that’s ever engaged in war? The Palestinian people have had their country stolen and have been corralled off from the surrounding world by a military occupier in the tiny subset of it that remains - they have a legal right to self-defense, and the very existence of “Israel” as a state has come at the cost of the absolute violation of their sovereignty and human rights, solely to impose the imaginary, invented sovereignty of an immigrating colonizing population, that was hoisted on them against their will by another colonizer (the British). Using the word “terrorist” used in this context is insane. It seems to hinge on the relationship of Hamas with Islamism, which isn’t even absolute, because it’s a pluralist, “big tent” party. Beyond there, what, it’s based on them having darker skin or being Muslim, which is what that word evokes for the more brainwashed Americans anyway. Rather, armed resistance in their case - as much as we’d all like to avoid violence of any kind - is legally sanctioned self-defense against a militarily aggressive entity, who has their territory and people under military occupation.

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          No,very few of the Palestinian population is involved in the fighting. It’s mostly civilians in Gaza.

          The Israelis have mandatory military service. That’s the side with a population of nearly 100% terrorists.

          Dont jump to conclusions. Re read what I wrote…

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            What you wrote is gone. From what I remember of it, if that’s what you were trying to say, you needed to word it better. To be generous.

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    And this is a country whose people have been fed heavily pro-Israel propaganda since the day they were born. What does the rest of the world think ?

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    I guess that’s what happens when you’re a piece of shit like Isreal seems to be.

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      Hey, that’s not nice, the shit is insulted…

      No but really, the Israeli government is absolutely the shit of shits.

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    So what are they going to do? This is what happens when you prop up & support ethno religious states. Don’t want it then stop supporting Israel’s existence.

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      The problem isn’t that Israel is an ethno-religious state, it’s that it’s a genocidal, apartheid, settler-colonial state imposing itself on someone else’s land, and it’s trying to ethnically cleanse that land of its indigenous peoples, and it’s trying to expand its territory into a “Greater Israel,” extending its project of ethnic cleansing ever wider.

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      You can support Israel without supporting what they’re doing.

      Edit: the state of Israel

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        If you are aware of what they are doing, and you provide support to them, that is therefore knowingly providing support to their actions, whether you agree with those actions or not.

        Or, if you just meant ‘agree with’ rather than ‘supply’, then I would say that what they’re doing is not something they will ever stop. It’s an integral part of their existence as an imperial Zionist state, they aren’t just doing it for fun, or because of some ‘bad apples’. They have no plan or desire to stop, their history is mostly just this same type of war and besieging repeated, and the USA would probably abandon them and let them collapse if they miraculously did decide to stop, because the US imperial strategy only values the Zionist Regime as a attack dog in the Middle East, a region critical for resource control.

        A lot of words to say, it might as well be supporting guns without supporting bullets. There is no realistic situation where guns won’t be used to shoot bullets. They can’t be separated, in reality. Why support guns, at that point? It’s just a comfortable abstract idea in a vacuum.

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        The name Israel was chosen by the Zionist movement for a reason & reflects what they are doing. By keeping the name, you’re enabling/supporting them.

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      A large portion of US zionists are white Christians who have no connections to the middle east other than their doomsday prophecy.