• 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Edit: I’m listening to AOC talk about that speech, and she is, of course, one million percent right. Not once did he mention Medicaid. They’re bringing up this other bullshit to distract us. They distracted me. If you upvoted my comment in its original form, you were probably distracted, too. We should be focused on what they’re REALLY doing: Gutting Medicaid.

    I listened to his address. He listed off some 19 items where they slashed the so-called “waste, fraud, and abuse.” The first thing was like 22 billion and the next eighteen added up to another 2.5 billion. So all in, they saved 24.5 billion.

    Trump’s requested 2018 budget (pre-pandemic, pre-inflation spike) was 4.094 trillion. Adjusted for inflation, it’d be 5.247 trillion today, which means they’ve saved basically nothing.

    Well, 0.47% to be more precise. Another way of putting it, if the government was spending $100.00 in 2018, now it’s spending $99.53. And if most people saw a thing that costs $99.53, they’re probably gonna tell you, “That thing’s a hundred bucks.”

    Meanwhile, a dozen of the bottom shelf eggs I bought this morning cost me six dollars. Four weeks ago, these were $1.89. My favorite brand isn’t even available anymore. Also, the store limits you to two cartons at a time. They do sell packages up to five dozen, though. Those cost $42. And yes, that is a worse deal. Much worse. But if you need 60 eggs at once, that’s probably how you’re go about it.

    Not to mention the planes falling out of the sky right now. But at least I still have my freedom, I guess?

    • Mac@mander.xyz
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      You’re also assuming he was truthing about the savings amount. He wasn’t. lol

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        A while back he claimed one amount was 8 Billion USD and it turned out to be 8 Million. Their total savings at that point was $6 bn usd after correcting for errors. One Republican Congressman took the time to print out charts about how abso-fucking-lutely nothing that amount was. He then proceeded to vote yea on the tax cuts for the rich later on.

      • Oh, I absolutely made the assumption in my calculation that he wasn’t lying. He can’t even lie a meaningful amount his administration has supposedly saved.

        But you and I both know the dopes who voted for him ate. that. shit. up.

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          Yeah, absolutely. They would rather be given reason to feel like they’re better than others than live in reality.

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    So can someone explain this to me? Because I understand the explanation that the experiments were with transgenic mice, and obviously Trump is dumb enough to not know the difference, but then they’ve got this explanation on whitehouse.gov:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/yes-biden-spent-millions-on-transgender-animal-experiments/

    I have to swallow down my vomit after reading an official government website use the phrase “fake news losers”, but then it seems to be quoting actual studies and includes things like:

    “A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”

    and

    Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes

    Those sound like perfectly valid and worthwhile experiments to me, but they do technically involve mice being given gender-affirming hormones, or as an idiot would say, “transgender mice”.

    I just want to be accurate with my criticisms, and I’m not sure the transgenic = transgender explanation is enough.

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      You know how the coward insecure snowflake that is elon had a receding hairline and now no longer does? That is gender affirming care.

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      This article is a good breakdown.
      https://www.wcpo.com/transgender-mice-fact-check-trump-2025

      The transgenic mice thing is for one of the several studies listed which I think we’re justified in highlighting and poking fun of their lack of QA and reading comprehension in these releases since they’re supposed to be representing the US and acting like drunken college students doing their homework the night before it’s due.

      The other studies are on the affects of HRT or “gender-affirming therapy” which is used by cis people all the time. Ever heard of a cis man going to get testosterone because he’s concerned about his low T? That’s gender affirming therapy. Most cis people don’t realize how much “trans healthcare” affects them too. Some of this research is specifically on “cross sex” hormones and is probably more directly applicable to the trans community, but it also likely has broader implications on the science of hormones and side effects for everyone regardless of if they’re cis or trans. This is one of several reasons why we say trans rights are human rights.

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    You’d think the republicans would want this. If they can make something transgender, then they can probably also make something not transgender.

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    I know it’s not the case because the studies basically are for a wider population set than just transgender people… But even if it weren’t, even if it was to create a population of trans mice to use for experiments benefiting trans people; we need it.

    People rag on about the possibilities of regret for the transitioned but it is so statistically rare that it really isn’t a huge problem… but one of the actual risks of existing as a trans or intersex person is medicine in general doesn’t test or teach for your population. Trans people are very often given entirely wrong doses of meds because of assumptions about how they should react to them. Rule of thumb is that the adage that for anyone on horomones “trans women are women, trans men are men” is basically the way to go. This is because if you treat an Assigned male at birth person on feminizing estrogen like you would a phenotyical cis man for purposes of dose chances are that you will give them too much. The drugs will linger in the paitents system just like drugs do for cis women and we already know that is a great way to cause unwanted damages to the paitents’ organ function and for desired care outcomes to tank. There are also some meds and health conditions which do have unique presentations in populations with mixed sex characteristics and a more in depth understanding of the nature of sex and the body is how you get cool new things.

    There is a largely empty hole in medicine where trans and intersex people are concerned and having an army of “transgender” mice to test against actually would be something of benefit. I know this is a generally unacceptable thing to point out to transphobes however because in a lot of ways they just want being trans to be riskier to force people away from considering being openly trans as a viable option.

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      They were not “making the mice transgender”.

      From the Whitehouse’s 6 evil studies list:

      Three of them were studying the long-term effects of gender-affirming hormone therapy on the growth of the skeleton, how it affects fertility, and if it changes your breast cancer risk. These are all things that people who are against transgender care use as reasons to stop transgender care. So they were potentially a way for the government to say “no” to this kind of hormone therapy and have some scientific backing for why. (Note: the results of these studies weren’t going the way anti-trans numpties would have liked. I’m sure that has nothing to do with it though.)

      One is studying (as best I can determine) how GA therapy works, I guess because we don’t really fully understand it. This one used “transgenic” mice (scary!) to help isolate the processes. That means they were genetically modified.

      There was a very scary one about how such hormone therapy affects the effectiveness of the HIV vaccine. (They made sure to list this one first with its homophobantitransantivax trifecta).

      One study they claimed in their list was actually just a comparison of asthma between men and women (nothing about transgender, but it mentioned “gonadal hormones” which is like, so gross).
      Edit to add: This one also accounts for over 1/3 of their claimed savings and is only tangentially related to transgender women because of the estrogen they take. It was mainly focused on laying a basis for future therapies for everyone with lung disease.

      A bunch of the info came from here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/white-house-scared-of-trans-mouse/

      I also read through the abstracts from the studies listed and linked in the Whitehouse press release.

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    Am I the only one who was mildly upset that they weren’t? Like shit, we somehow got to bio-transhumanism before techno-transhumanism, that’s rad. By all means, let’s research new ways of being transgender, I wanna see what people come up with next.

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    So it’s not as simple as these memes are making it. They were making mice transgender but it was to study the effects on the transitioning hormones had on their bodies abilities to fight HIV. I have now explained what is actually happening but it doesn’t align with either side so I’m ready for my downvotes.