As far as I can tell, different faces, but same old, same old… I mean, literally anyone is better than Biden at the job, considering age…

What do dems worry about her?

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    You’re never going to get all Democrats to be satisfied with any candidate, ever. People are going to complain because they love complaining. That said, I think most people are probably fine with her.

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      The phrase is Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

      But I don’t think it’s really all that accurate. It’s more like Republicans fall in line, Democrats come to terms with.

      And we will.

      Also, Biden was not bad at the job. Few had the knowledge of the levers of power to keep shit running with Republican/Sinema/Manchin obstruction.

      But he is four years older, and I hope moving to a different candidate works out. Democrats should love a chance to vote for a totally new candidate who keeps most of the same mildly progressive agenda.

      But I will say if she doesn’t stick with the plan to reform the Supreme Court I will be extremely disappointed.

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        It would be more useful if Biden did the Court thing rather than waiting for Harris to maybe do it if she wins. What if she doesn’t win? What is she wins, but the existing Court does yet more damage between now and then?

        I do agree with you that Biden was a good President. I’ve never seen a President that did all the stuff we wanted, but they’ve always faced opposition and had to make comprises to get anything at all pushed through. I really wanted nationalized health care, but the best Obama could do was Obamacare – which isn’t great, but is sooo much better than the whole ‘pre-existing conditions’ denial system we had before. I really want the U.S. to stop backing Israel because of the Gaza crisis, but I don’t want to see all the surrounding nations to wipe Israel off the map if the U.S. isn’t there. I thought Biden gave a fantastic State of the Union speech. We know it was on a teleprompter, but he delivered with energy and style. I suspect his decline (as with so many other aging people) has been uneven/sporadic, so I can’t even blame anyone for ‘hiding’ his decline because I bet everyone was seeing lots of good days in there, too – at least until the last month or so.

        Off topic: I have a relative going through a sudden decline. She’s been old for a long time, but the last couple months have been a dramatic change for the worse despite no particular health issue. She’s just suddenly much, much older and even her neighbors are commenting to us family. Seeing it in her, I imagine Biden might be going through the same thing.

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        He’s a smart guy with all the connections and history with everyone. Great advisor, but not great in front of the camera.

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        Also, Biden was not bad at the job.

        There’s no fucking way he was doing the job in 2024 the same as in 2020. He’s declined way too much.

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      Definitely democrats have a big crybaby mood, they live in an unreal ideological bubble. always complaining for everything and instead of organizing effectively they just want to convince everyone with the LGBTQIA+ rethoric.

      People who have a protagonic syndrome and like to believe their POV it’s the best of all human history.

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        They’re always complaining because time after time the party would rather coddle Republicans and the wealthy than rock the boat leading to a bunch of virtue signaling and watered down legislation that helps almost nobody while the Overton window shifts further and further right.

        Maybe you’re satisfied with the state of politics in this country, but I’m sure the hell not.

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          I’m not ok about the actual status quo but I’m still believe humankind isn’t ready for something else yet.

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    I’ll still vote for her, even though I’ve thought she’s been an ineffectual VP and was just a bad presidential candidate in 2020. During the 2020 Dem primary debates she basically got shutdown by Tulsi Gabbard and never really recovered from that, up until Biden picked her as VP. Her previous record would probably make her a liability amongst liberals, but there’s not much choice now. She doesn’t seem to have much charisma or inspire much enthusiasm. She’s not old though, so that’s a plus in her favor. Being a black woman is sure to excite elements of the party that would find that important, as it would be another historic first for the country if she were elected. I’d just be happy to avert fascism with whomever.

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    Some don’t consider her progressive enough, some consider her too controversial (eg. non-white, non-male, former prosecutor) to win.

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      How much of the democratic and “independents” populations actually care about eg. non-white, non-male,

      And how many care about former prosecutor?

      Asking for a friend

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        More than will admit it, for the former. Or sometimes it’s phrased as “Well I don’t care but it will drive the racists and sexists of the other party against her.”

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    I’m confused… why do even Republicans seem conflicted on Donald Trump as a candidate?

    What do repubs worry about him?

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    Kamala aint the issue… DNC clowns got no credibility left since 2016 they are doing some fucking weird switecheeroos.

    What is point of primaries, just assign candidate based on party affiliation.