As a fellow Gen Zer I feel like there is a generational gap. I want to see if I’m trippin or there actually is one.
Millennial here. My impression is we’re the largest generation on this platform, but I could be wrong.
Because every other “generation” is about 10 years and yet somehow “Millennials” are an almost 25 year gap. Notice how it’s “Older Millennial, younger millennial, etc”. You don’t use those qualifiers with the other generations because they are appropriately sized.
Millennials should be 2-3 named generations. It currently refers to 80’s kids, 90s kids, any kids alive when 2000 happened, and early Aughts kids(probably because the last name sucked and no one wanted to use it). Too many generations wanted the claim of “I was the first generation of the new millennium” and everyone co-opted the term even when it didn’t traditionally apply(newborns because they were closest to the date as opposed to when their major development occured is part of that stretch)
It’s not an exact definition, but below I think is close:
Baby Boomers: Born 1946-1964 (18 years)
Generation X: Born 1965-1980 (15 years)
Millennials (Gen Y): Born 1981-1996 (15 years)
Generation Z: Born 1997-2012 (15 years)
Generation Alpha: Born 2013-present
What you’re saying doesn’t line up with this at all, but maybe you have other generation dates in mind.
And look at all the other dates others are giving me. They’re not the same as yours. THATS my point. No one actually agrees on the dates and at this point, it’s expanded to include other generations.
Yet I have 10 different people spouting different dates and all telling me I’m wrong. None of you see that you’re the exact point I was making. Everyone tries to shove in some extra years before or after.
Which is exactly why I qualified it saying it’s not exact. What dates are you using? You must be using something to say that Millennials are 25 years while the others are 10. That’s MY point.
Look around at the other comments like I said?
That’s MY point. It’s called reading comprehension.
I did. You never explained where you got this idea that Millennials have a 25 year gap and the others are 10.
When I was growing up, the definitions kept changing.
I was born in 1986, and while in primary school I was told that makes me GenX. So I grew up thinking I was GenX. Then in high school, my teachers said actually anyone born after 1985 is GenY, so we’re definitely GenY.
Then when year 2000 came around people started talking about a new generation of people who would “never remember the 20th century”, or “never know a world without the internet”, basically people born after 1997 so they grow up completely in the 2000s. They called them Millennials.
From then on the usage of “millennial” kept growing, starting to see it everywhere. Mostly by boomers complaining about millennials.
Around 2012 I stated seeing some youtubers around my age referring to themselves as millennials, I thought it was a joke, or a bad understanding. Then people started referring to me as a millennial. Someone who’s whole childhood was in the 90s, how could I be a millennial, it defied the definition.
So I imagine my shock when I find now they’ve removed all trace of the usage of GenY, and retroactively applied “millennial” to mean anyone born after 1985. So maybe I am a millennial? I remember staying up late to celebrate with my parents and make sure our computer didn’t crash at midnight on new years eve in 1999. I remember wondering why dragonballz wasn’t on TV when the news was showing footage of American skyscrapers in 2001. Are those the things that make me a millennial? If so then what about the original definition? Those born 1997 or later won’t remember those things, so now they’re Zoomers? All this business makes me so confused.
Thank you, someone who gets it. The definition has expanded so much it’s essentially meaningless now.
When I grew up and the term was first coined, it refered to the generation coming after mine. It was literally “what will we call this next generation? Well, they’re growing up during the turn of the millennium…”. Then suddenly years later it included my generation. Then suddenly it includes the generation before me? When really it’s just a lazy replacement for “kids these days”.
I don’t think this is correct.
The bit you’re getting confused by, I think, is that some generations are just bigger than others. The boomers were by their name sake a big generation. Millennials are essentially boomers’ kids … and so they’re bigger than both Gen X and Gen Z.
- Most “generational” definitions span about 15 years, sometimes more. EG, Boomers: 1946-1960
- There are sensibly defined micro-generations typically at the borders between generations.
- EG, “Jones Generation”: 1960-1965 … “young boomers” … they had a distinct life experience from “core boomers” not too different from that of X-Gens. Vietnam and 60s happened while they were children, Reagan was their 20s, not 40s, etc.
- Xennials are notable here because they’re the transition between X-Gen and Millennials (late 70s to early 80s) … probably what you’re thinking of as “older millennials”. What’s interesting though is that the relevance of Xennials is that technological changes mark the generation … they’re essentially just barely young enough to count as part of the internet generations but not
oldyoung enough to be ignorant of the pre-internet times. Which just highlights that how you talk about generations depends on what you more broadly care about. In the west, arguably not too much political upheaval has occurred since WWII and its immediate consequences (basically Boomer things) … and so the generations are distinguished on smaller and probably more technological scales.
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Older millennial here. I came here a year ago.
Generation labels are BS.
At some point, a clever media article increments the previous letter, or since everything was not planned well from the beginning and the letters have run out, stamps a poorly conceived label on a group of people.
These ‘generations’ are based on ambiguous date cutoffs, are engineered retroactively, and don’t really align with any actual zeitgeist of a period. Because discrete vs continuous and other reasons. But any good scapegoat requires a convenient label.
Begun, the generation wars have.
The older generation is blamed for the world’s problems since they were ‘in charge’. The younger generation is blamed for being impulsive or wild, just not working hard enough, and maybe having too little respect. Also toast wrecks the economy or something?
The older generation is perplexed by the fracas since the people who were actually in power were supposed to be taking care of the big problems, while they were working a job, raising kids, and hoping to retire some day. They had no direct power and could not make decisions of a magnitude that would change much of anything in society.
The younger generation is equally perplexed because they have little money, status, or power, and are also working a job or three, waiting to start a family perhaps, and have often given up on retiring someday.
Everyone has been fed a steady diet of fabricated hopelessness, dysfunction, and outrage from the media for decades.
Only a few will realize the whole ‘generation’ thing is fabricated to keep you distracted. Who benefits from the scapegoating, infighting, and status quo? Someone is driving it, and benefiting from it, but it is not you.
Vote dammit
Pew Research Center recently commented on this https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/22/how-pew-research-center-will-report-on-generations-moving-forward/
The field has been flooded with content that’s often sold as research but is more like clickbait or marketing mythology. There’s also been a growing chorus of criticism about generational research and generational labels in particular.
Generation gaps are another great way of getting the plebs fighting each other rather than the people who actually run things (capitalists)
Gen X. Aka: The feral generation. We were left to our own devices and most of us turned out fine.
Now get offa muh lawn! shakes fist
Same. Raised on neglect and hose water.
Sorry, can’t stay. The street lights just came on.
Same here.
You know what’s kind of funny. Both my parents identify as Gen X. Both of them are actually Baby Boomer’s. With the pre-requisite feral children. But I’m a millennial and it’s kind of funny that having grown up basically a feral child my generation doesn’t get to claim that.
Huh… I never thought of that in this specific way.
When we were kids, and I was born 1994, our parents both had to work to acquire enough income to afford things, making us rely on ourselves. Parents did not pay that much for babysitters back then, no? And us kids weren’t being watched by GPS or something 24/7.
But it’s a tight window, and it depends on the family how long it stays open. I know some people born in 1997 who are like this, and others who aren’t.
Knowing about 2girls1cup, 1man1jar, that creepy car zombie coffee advert, other shock content… we were desensitised to gore and shock content. We played on MS Paint for hours.
Our parents did not know what we were doing, and it was… I’d say it was good.
Generation X here.
Why is your profile pic an outline of me
Haha, I’ve been using old.lemmy.world for so long I’d forgotten I even had the Space Needle profile on my account. Was truly puzzled for a minute.
“How do they know I’m in Seattle? Oh, yeah.”
As someone who lives in the PNW that PNW clued me in.
No, it’s because you’re wearing socks with your sandals
Xenial, I think it’s called. I was the youngest, and I was born in 1983. My siblings are Def GenX, and I never quite identified with that group.
I never quite identified as a millennial either, I’m somewhere in between.
i dont know how its called but my shot would be xillenial
Also dubbed “Generation Catalano:” https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html
Gen X
Old Millennial.
I grew up without cell phones or Internet until my teen years. Remember watching the OJ trial whenever I was home sick from school.
We were really worried about Y2K, which would have been a disaster if not fixed ahead of time.
Had to work on 9/11, and remember what airports were like before all the added security.
Also had to work - pushing groceries to people’s cars while the VA sniper was rolling around the area shooting people in parking lots.
I remember people smoking cigarettes fucking everywhere. There were cigarette vending machines.
Our 2 and 3 liter bottles had an extra plastic piece to make the bottom flat. I don’t think they were making them with feet like they do today. The bottoms were round, requiring a plastic shoe to create a flat bottom. Sometimes the bottles had a metal cap.
Hardly anybody wore seatbelts. Gas was under $1/gallon when I started driving.
Slightly younger old millennial.
Bacon used to be just about the most expensive meat you could buy.
Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden.
Terrorists were angry leprechauns who had been abused by centuries of British oppression.
Russia was kind of cool for a little while.
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I’m gen X. I definitely feel that Boomers are from a different world. I felt we got a shit deal but that just got worse for millenials then gen Z. To me, I feel like I can relate to generations that followed me. They’re pissed off and they should be.
Well I have kids your age, so a literal generation gap? Yes.
I think Lemmy has age diversity, more so than other platforms.
i mean, its a good thing
As Millennial as Millennial can be, smack dab in the middle of the cohort.
As a fellow Gen Zer
Fellow to whom now?
not you
Obviously
Xennial. I’m X depending upon which number you use as the cutoff (the '80 definition vs '82 definition)
This generation.
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I’m not dead yet, AFAIK.
Early 90s millenial here. I remember the wild west internet days. Left Reddit because it does not serve the interests of its users anymore.
