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    If you had 34 trillion in debt and a centuries-long history of making on-time payments, you’d have a perfect credit score.

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      Credit rating also depends on credit to debt ratio. You want to keep it below 35%, so you would need a credit line of $100T or more to have a great rating.

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        I think sovereign debt would work like an AmEx Platimum with “no fixed limit”, which makes the algorithm ignore utilization.

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    Worth pointing out that credit scores are completely detached from the government. They are entirely private industry, that is collecting and selling your financial info without your consent or opt in. If you were born before 2004, then they have also accidentally leaked literally all your personal info to the dark web, with literally 0 consequences.

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    Well, since the billionaire class doesn’t pay it’s fair share of the tax burden, that money has to come from somewhere.

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      Only people who are bad credit risks ever come up with this take, lmao.

      The sole function of credit scores is to benefit people who are reliably ‘good for it’ when they borrow money. Without them, everyone is treated as just as high a risk as the worst borrowers who are least likely to pay back their debts, and you gain no benefit from reliably paying back your debts. But with them, your good borrowing is kept track of, and good reputation means lenders trust you more to pay your debts back, so they’re willing to lend more, and they are willing to charge less interest.

      Removing credit scores changes nothing for bad borrowers, and hurts good borrowers.

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        You’re discounting the people who have always lived within their means and so never took on debt. They also don’t have good credit. They’ve never missed a payment. They’re good for the money. But they don’t have a history showing that because they’ve never needed that.

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          You’re discounting the people who have always lived within their means and so never took on debt.

          No I’m not. Those people are unknown quantities, and so also suffer if credit scores go away, because bad borrowers are worse than first-time borrowers, so without credit scores, first-timers will be treated worse.

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            I’m saying people who don’t play this credit game but otherwise are good financially also think it’s dumb. Not just bad risks.

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    Credit scores require you to get some kind of debt. This is because it’s not a score of your financial health. It’s a score of how reliably you repay your debt.

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    Terry Pratchett’s “Making Money” taught me enough economics to know that individual debt and national debt are two different things.

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    I heard that the us still has good credit because although it owes trillions, it is worth quadrillions (all lands and assets), so not really a concern

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      And what’s sad are the number of people that act like credit scores are a force of nature we just have to accept

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    Tell me you don’t understand how credit score works without telling me you don’t understand how credit score works

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    if it makes you feel any better you’d go to prison if you decided to run a ponzi scheme… unless you’re a bank, that is