I love how there is an entire group of people who think it’s perfectly normal to “fight” the company that makes the OS they use.
(This message brought to you by the Linux gang.)
hey, windows users… your OS actively hates you!
that is all.
Pretty sure most windows users hate their OS right back.
My mom actually said my windows mac the other day…
Yeah but on the other hand you also have to wrestle with Linux a lot, and personally usually a lot more time wise. It’s all tradeoffs and what people care more about.
true, but you’re not fighting malice or greed, you’re fighting laziness and arrogance. diffeeent vibe.
This is a common misconception. You didn’t come out of the womb knowing how to use Android, iOS or Windows. To that same capacity you didn’t come out knowing how to use Linux either. It has the same learning curve any other OS would. It’s a sunk cost fallacy.
I’m not entirely certain about that. For instance, on Linux I always have to look up how to create symlinks even though I’ve been using the OS exclusively for three years. On Windows, it is: Right click -> Create shortcut. It’s easier for most people to remember a 2 action process than a console command with multiple options and specific syntax. But of course, this is only one example and doesn’t apply to everything. For instance, I have absolutely no trouble remembering mkdir, cp, or rm. I think it’s a bit of a mixed bag.
To some extent that is true. But on the other hand, Windows is both usually easier to learn (has a UI for 99% of stuff, basic design principles dictate that it’s much easier to remember what to click on than what to type), and it just works. I rarely have to interact with the OS in any way to get something to work. I’ve tried multiple times to switch to Linux, but it just has so much stuff that doesn’t work out of the box, or at all. Da Vinci Resolve has a native version which is completely broken, Dota 2 has a native version but doesn’t pre compile shaders, so whenever e.g. I open a new hero in the hero list it lags for 1-2s, many games with anti cheat don’t work, good luck with anything in VR, no popular distro that I’ve seen has a clipboard and the ones I found online are just worse than the Windows one, etc.
I want to switch, I really do, but I’m already a power user on Windows, I would have to learn a lot to be on the same level on Linux, add onto that the fact that a lot of stuf that’s important to me just doesn’t work properly on Linux, it just doesn’t make sense for me, and for most people they’re gonna be a lot less willing to switch. Most people will not bother trying to change something, even if it’s objectively better. Most people just want to stick with what already works for them, and until Linux is able to just work with no need for user intervention, especially through terminals which people fear, it’s still a long way from mainstream adoption.
At least Linux isn’t trying to milk you for its own gain.
If people didn’t do this it would happen faster. Not everyone has the luxury of immediately switching, just like the “move to another state” argument
Fuck Microsoft
Wouldn’t it be possible to buy a new PC, open the box, and return it right after because you cannot set it up without internet?
If enough people do it, may be PC manufacturers will force Microsoft to add offline setups.
Louis Rossman type energy. I like it let’s do it. Windows refund day 2 baby
Use shift f10 and edit the registry… They aren’t disabling that until they have a better solution for autopilot.
May not work for home editions…
Tried that on the last install i had to do. Doesnt always anymore. Task manager was hidden by the setup a few times when i did that :(
I ended up using rufus to patch iso pre-extraction hehe :)
That dude who predicted Windows 12 being a cloud OS was probably dead on the money.
How would a cloud OS even work? Like what would your PC boot in to?
Probably a minimal environment that streams the desktop to you. Must be the smallest windows install on a local PC ever.
Shift+F10
oobe\bypassnro
OOBE\BYPASSNRO and fuck Microsoft
Back in the day, using Windows was essentially a long series of fucking around with configurations and trying different workarounds to get things to “go”. The actual using of the computer was, in a way, secondary.
Nothing has changed. Many many years ago I bought a used Apple to try it out and was just - astounded at how little I needed to mess with things to get them to do what I wanted. It was all in settings. That’s it.
Watching Microsoft leap headfirst into full evil is just like watching the seasons change.
The amount of time I’ve spent getting my MacOS to not be annoying… it’s such a shit experience compared to Gnome/Linux. Every single day I use MacOS, I find a new annoying inconsistency, or either poor or directly bad UX design decision or implementation.
Next time I look for a place to work, I’d consider Windows or MacOS to require at least 30% higher salary to be worth the annoyance.
And y’all say that linux users don’t value their time… smh
In them days Linux was even more about messing around with configurations and finding workarounds. It came on floppies, and as it loaded it made these kind of grinding, farting sounds. We would install it with an onion tied to our belt - which was the style at the time.
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But why don’t you just turn off the internet when setting up Windows? You don’t need any hacks for that
I believe that one was patched a while ago
They did mostly. It is still possible (but can be extremely frustrating if your timing is off by fractions of a second) to disconnect a LAN cable or USB-LAN adapter (DON’T sign into a wifi network) at the right moment and cause it to ask for a name for the user account. I have taken to calling this the “AA Pullout Method.” My co-workers and myself are crass de-gens and sometimes have to trade off trying to get it to work and made it a game to see who can get it to work in the least amount of tries. Get the “title” of “pullout king.” Did you need to know this? No, but it is no less dumb than the steps below and attempts needed to just make a fucking local user on Windows 10/11 (though 10 seems to be much easier to get around).
You have to first fail at signing into a MS account. Which you can just type the letter “a” instead of an actual email address (seriously don’t have to type anything else, not even adding “@email.whatever” is needed) as if you are just using a preexisting account and not pick the “create a MS account.” It will then ask for your MS account password and just again type the letter “a.” It will then give a “Oops something went wrong” message. This is where the unplugging the cable is needed. The timing is that you need to pull the cable basically right as you let go of your left-click on the “Retry” button. So like if you are using a regular mouse it won’t register that you clicked the button until the moment you have lifted your finger. But if you fail to time it just right, it will either just cycle back to the “Sign into existing MS account” screen where you used the first “a” instead of an email. Or it will give a different message about not being online and take you back to the “Let’s get you online” network screen with your LAN adapter and wifi networks. However if you time it correctly, it will just ask for the name of the user and password.
If you forget to plug the LAN cable back in after getting the “name of user” screen, it will give the screen about not being online. If you are able to get the local user name screen, just plug your LAN back in and it will just ask the rest of the setup questions like normal. And you now have a local user account. But again, shit is super touchy about the timing. So it could take quite a number of retries to get it to work. If you have ever used the PSP/PS3/PS Vita “Hen” non-permanent “custom firmwares,” then you might know the struggle (as the hack may fail to launch until entirely too many attempts if you haven’t used them).
Never heard of it being patched so can’t tell. Btw was the old one with administrator command prompt patched too?
It worked as of six months ago, but it is possible that was patched in this recent “fix”.
The W11 installer sadly doesn’t allow that anymore with the current versions. If you have that older installer, keep it safely archived.
Just used this bypass 2 days ago. I’d recommend people download the current W11 installer so that the work around always works as long as you keep the device away from Internet until the OS is installed
Win11 doesn’t let you past setup if you dont have an internet connection.
I believe it wasn’t the case in the past. Well that sucks. I’m glad I don’t use Windows for anything except gaming now
…aaaand I will never switch to Windows 11.
But then, I’m a hypocrite, because I have to create an account to use Android.
because I have to create an account to use Android…
You don’t. Look into degoogled ROMs, MicroG, Aurora store, and f-droid.
Oh sure, sure. My point is that Google asked for the same thing as MS, and I mindlessly gave it to them.
I’ll look into degoogling at some point.
One difference is there was already value with having a gmail account. What’s the point of getting a Microsoft account? The only thing I can see is it makes settings set up/transfer easy between PCs and for reinstalls.
Except, if I’m reinstalling, I can’t imagine waiting to copy settings since one of those settings is probably causing a problem and I don’t want it to be automatically set for me. I also don’t use the Microsoft store so…
Does anyone else actually get value from their Microsoft account? If not, It just feels like it’s only purpose is giving them (more) access to your computer. Why would anyone want that?
And like that, they just ensured I’m never moving on from 10.
M$ be like, fine, we didn’t want you anyway
They say, until they start crying about “unsecured devices” that they assume all contribute to malware footprints despite all of the hold-outs I know having comprehensive A/V solutions lmfao
You can still easily bypass it with other methods, like unplugging your ethernet cable. Even if you don’t have an ethernet cable you can unplug, the WiFi screen has an “I don’t have internet” button on Windows 11 Pro and above. Not sure about Home, but there are other alternative ways. It’s still really shitty they keep trying to force this on people.
I’ve heard you can use a cheap local RADIUS server to establish a local domain. Anyone attempt this?
