• MuchPineapples@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    She’s wrong though, everything following the scientific method is science. The fact that you didn’t pay out of your ass to publicize your research doesn’t matter. Of course it reaches less people, but that’s a separate issue.

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      5 months ago

      Does it require independent peer review though? How do you achieve that with without publication? The predatory publication system is a different point.

      Edit: fix without

      • Mojave@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Wouldn’t this imply that science didn’t exist before academic publication existed? Was zero science conducted before the ~1600s then?

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          Fair point, I should specify “modern science”. There’s quite a gap of scientific quality between traditional medicine and modern science based medicine for example.

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          Possibly. I can’t come up with any major results that wasn’t either logic, engineering or tradition. But it’s an interesting question. What might count as science before then?

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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          Was zero science conducted before the ~1600s then?

          I mean, yes. The framework of studying things that we understand as science did not always exist.

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            5 months ago

            Every time someone thinks science and studying natural phenomena are the same thing Newton sheds a single tear from his non-poked eye.

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          5 months ago

          not as a discipline. If you publish an experiment to the extent it can be reproduced, it is science, so its happened before but in a less intentional fashion

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      5 months ago

      everything following the scientific method is science

      I’m fairly certain “report conclusions” is a pretty big deal in the scientific method. Principle of verifiability and all that.

    • CptOblivius@lemmy.world
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      True a lot of science is done in industry and the corporate world and not published to keep it a trade secret. It is still science but not shared.