• Sanya@lemmygrad.ml
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    12 days ago

    Both leaders stressed their strong support for Ukraine, which they said would continue.

    Oh, nevermind. I don’t underatand, they ask Putin to make a peace deal with Ukraine yet say they will support Ukraine? What does support mean in this case? If they want a peace deal, mediators are usually neutral. I am confused

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      11 days ago

      It is very bullshitty. Best I can gather is this amounts to them signaling a desire to handle the matter outside of the US’s purview. But since they are still rabidly NATO and they keep trying to play it off like Ukraine isn’t a NATO proxy, it looks kind of nonsensical.

      Something like:

      “Come to the table with us and deal!”

      “On what terms?”

      “The terms that benefit NATO!”

      “Why the fuck would we do that.”

      “I don’t know, we just want to be at the table.”

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      11 days ago

      They did what they usually do, they tell Russia they want to talk and spend the entire time not listening to a word Russia says and just keep insisting that Russia has to surrender.