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    There’s a reason places named after Daszyński have not been decommunized in Poland

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      Some right deviationist will tell ya its all about gettin those high marks, but fail to critisize whos givin them out 😏

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      idk, i think that either stalin or the any member of the kim family packs a bigger punch. lol

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        Yeah, Lenin isn’t all that spicy. Strangely libs are more receptive of him than most other communist leaders - usually in a patronizing manner.

        “Oh he had good intentions but Stalin betrayed him blah blah blah”

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          I was discussing with the crowd at Memes of Production and try asking them about Lenin and you will find them quite unforgiving.

          tl;dr Lenin was a lib, debating on the internet is pointless :D

          I do however tend to agree with you. I believe it is because his imperialism theory actually stems from Hobson, Lenin added economic method, crunched the numbers and came to somewhat positive conclusion that capitalism is a dying vampire, that cannot sustain itself because of socialized capital. If are a liberal or even have an interest in political economy Lenin can be seen not as an ideological figure, but as an political economist. I am pretty sure Keynes looked at Lenin before writing Consequences. And Keynes is social conservative.

          I haven’t read Stalin except the usual quotes and fragments, but yes him and the Koreans really seems to part the waters. And understandable too. If you don’t have a historical context for Korea both North and South seems quite absurd and people don’t have a historical context.

          I should stop myself. I can’t seem to avoid making walls of text. Anyways. Watching Korea from an IP/realist point off view the country has done the absolutely best it could with it got. But seen in glimpses through westernized and sensationalized journalism a lot of stuff is both absurd and outrageous.

          My point being that even people whom are quite political are not immune to (imperialistic) propaganda, myself included. Especially on the scales being rolled out at the moment. And on the same note I find myself glossing over some of the criticism of China and India, instead of acknowledging the very real problems those countries have. Because if I try to put but a drop of nuance into a debate every one forget the pointlessness of trying to win a debate on the internet and uses it as an opening to show exactly how evil those opposing imperialism are O.o

          Sorry for the rant.

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        Those might be more spicy, but views on them are rarely neuanced. Lenin, however, half denominations of leftist want to claim and everyone loves to quote, often without any regard for context.

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      Henryk Grossman and the Recovery of Marxism (I just looked up “Growing up in Galicia” in quotes and that was the first thing that came up)