This is a thread specifically for the war, not a general megathread (use the pinned /c/genzedong thread for that).
Please keep related news in this thread rather than making separate posts. Remember to include sources and avoid spreading rumours.
This is a thread specifically for the war, not a general megathread (use the pinned /c/genzedong thread for that).
Please keep related news in this thread rather than making separate posts. Remember to include sources and avoid spreading rumours.
A non-aggression pact with Iran is incredibly simple: don’t want your shit blown up, just stop letting the US or the Zionist entity use your territory and airspace to attack Iran or its allies.
Its not quite simple though because the second saudi
americaarabia thinks about pushing usa out, the zionists and americans will start targeting saudi oil infrastructure and blame it on Iran.When things like that happen the governments of those states don’t genuinely believe it was Iran. They know it was the US/Zionists but they go along with blaming Iran because it’s currently more convenient to use it as a pretext to agitate against Iran and gain “good boy points” with the US. Some of the population may be fooled by the media but the governments have enough intelligence capabilities to recognize false flags.
If they genuinely want to get out from under the US thumb and establish a mutual understanding with Iran for regional stability and security then they will have to start calling out the real culprits.
That is how you will know if the agreement was signed in good faith or not. Whether the Saudis are willing to engage in good faith that i don’t know.
Yes, this arguably takes a ripe asset rich target away from Iran though. Obviously hitting them for damages sake isn’t good behaviour, but they’ve already made their bed when they let US use their country as a military base to blow up Iran. Just cause they fucked up and got their shit rocked doesn’t mean Iran gains anything from this. What can Saudi do or provide that US and Israel don’t already have in spades?
Simply not having US military stationed there is already a huge victory in itself, or am I missing something? Ultimately, Iran wants zero US military presence in the region, and this could be a major initial step in that direction. As long as Iran keeps bombing US allies and leaving be the neutral states, it sends a powerful message.
I thought this was a non aggression pact with nothing in it whatsoever about remove US presence or am I missing something
“Basing locations. Geographical limitations are a reality. If you cannot launch attacks from close by your options will be much more limited”
Last I checked they have bases etc in UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Oman, Jordan, Syria, then the scourge of the earth slightly further away.
Was it part of the agreement that the US were leaving Saudi? Or am I missing something?
Does that actually make a difference when they’re stationed in every other country in every direction? Even Iraq?
If there’s background agreements that the US will remove their presence in Saudi then they’ve actually achieved something. Likewise if this is a step closer to ending the war they’ve achieved something. If the US and 'israel" go back to blasting them with everything they’ve got then I’m not convinced this helps in any way.
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Basing locations. Geographical limitations are a reality. If you cannot launch attacks from close by your options will be much more limited. If only a few of the Gulf state comprador regimes remain available to them in that region, that significantly reduces their tactical flexibility and shrinks the area to disperse/hide their assets over.
Taking Saudi Arabia out of the equation is a net advantage for Iran. There are still plenty of targets in the region without them.