So, do you think it’s just propaganda that the Nazis were anti-liberal? And by extension, do you think that the MAGA movement today is a pro-liberal movement?
The Nazis worked hand in hand with liberals, and after the war liberals helped protect them and use them for the US space program and to lead organizations like NATO.
Oh, wow. So, you don’t distinguish between the collaborators and those who opposed fascism? That’s a very interesting blindspot you have. Convenient, too.
Does that also work for the Soviet Union? They collaborated with the Nazis too, remember?
The liberals only opposed fascism once it was clear that the Nazis were going to attack them as well. Fascists like Batista in Cuba were worked with to the very end, never once opposing them. As for the soviets, they never did collaborate with the Nazis.
What happened was the soviets spent an entire decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, while the liberals were gleefully working with the Nazis. The soviets signed a non-aggression pact on the eve of war to buy time.
Lol! Wut? The Soviets didn’t form an “anti-Nazi alliance”…they were allied with the Nazis. They made a deal with them to carve up Eastern Europe between their two empires. This was literally the same cynical opportunism that led the Americans to give sanctuary to Nazi scientists after the war. If this means that Liberals are somehow naturally aligned with fascism, in your mind…then so are Communists, by the same criteria. It simply isn’t true, either way.
You are being very selective with your outrage here, to the point of being completely disingenuous. A lot of people collaborated with the Nazis for a wide range of reasons. You claiming that paints everyone of that political type with the same brush, is just intellectually dishonest.
If you were arguing in good faith, you would have to acknowledge that fascists will use anyone of any political persuasion for their own advantage, right up until they are no longer useful…and then stab them in the back. Often literally killing them, en masse. Which is exactly what they did with all their political opponents, in the end.
That goes for Socialists, Liberals, Anarchists, whatever. Everyone NOT a fascist or a collaborator. There are distinctions between these groups, for a reason. You seem to be ignoring those distinctions, out of purely personal political bias.
So, do you think it’s just propaganda that the Nazis were anti-liberal? And by extension, do you think that the MAGA movement today is a pro-liberal movement?
The Nazis worked hand in hand with liberals, and after the war liberals helped protect them and use them for the US space program and to lead organizations like NATO.
Oh, wow. So, you don’t distinguish between the collaborators and those who opposed fascism? That’s a very interesting blindspot you have. Convenient, too.
Does that also work for the Soviet Union? They collaborated with the Nazis too, remember?
Historical illiteracy and false equivalence.
The liberals only opposed fascism once it was clear that the Nazis were going to attack them as well. Fascists like Batista in Cuba were worked with to the very end, never once opposing them. As for the soviets, they never did collaborate with the Nazis.
What happened was the soviets spent an entire decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, while the liberals were gleefully working with the Nazis. The soviets signed a non-aggression pact on the eve of war to buy time.
Lol! Wut? The Soviets didn’t form an “anti-Nazi alliance”…they were allied with the Nazis. They made a deal with them to carve up Eastern Europe between their two empires. This was literally the same cynical opportunism that led the Americans to give sanctuary to Nazi scientists after the war. If this means that Liberals are somehow naturally aligned with fascism, in your mind…then so are Communists, by the same criteria. It simply isn’t true, either way.
You are being very selective with your outrage here, to the point of being completely disingenuous. A lot of people collaborated with the Nazis for a wide range of reasons. You claiming that paints everyone of that political type with the same brush, is just intellectually dishonest.
If you were arguing in good faith, you would have to acknowledge that fascists will use anyone of any political persuasion for their own advantage, right up until they are no longer useful…and then stab them in the back. Often literally killing them, en masse. Which is exactly what they did with all their political opponents, in the end.
That goes for Socialists, Liberals, Anarchists, whatever. Everyone NOT a fascist or a collaborator. There are distinctions between these groups, for a reason. You seem to be ignoring those distinctions, out of purely personal political bias.