• LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml
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    I love how controversial this is. Lib meter off the charts.

    Material analysis, systemic analysis, these processes give clarity: it is a machine that needs to be dismantled.

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    This braindeadism would be so funny to watch if America wouldn’t drag everyone else down with them.

    Sorry to tell you guys, but your only option in the foreseeable future is to vote for the democrats and pray they prove a tiny bit better. You have nothing else in your hands. Third party votes are political suicide. So is not voting. Even if the Dems are bad, they are not fascists (for now). Pray they don’t become fascists.

    Cheers from a place far, far (but not far enough) away.

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      Kamala literally said that Iran is one of the greatest threats… Just look at their foreign policies instead of domestic ones. You’d see that there is not any difference between them at all. Only reason that liberals care about Trump is that he’s mean about it and that’s the extend on which libs think this issue ends on.

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        Thinking people are opposed to Trump invading Iran, or opposed to Trump in general because he’s “mean” is misguided at best. If Trump had gone through the correct channels, and gotten congressional approval for the “strategic combat operations” weve been involved in, nobody would have anything to complain about (other than the obvious “no new wars” and higher gas prices, but thats a different topic entirely). Trump acts as though he has absolute power in the seat of the executive, and has unfortunately surrounded himself with loyal cronies that wont tell him no. I dont give a fuck that he’s mean (it isnt even that he is, he honestly acts like a 1st grade playground bully), but I do give a fuck about him following the law, being held accountable when he doesn’t, and that he follows correct etiquette when making decisions that will effect the entire country.

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          If Trump had gone through the correct channels, and gotten congressional approval for the “strategic combat operations” weve been involved in, nobody would have anything to complain about

          I don’t know I think killing hundreds to thousands of innocents is still bad even if the US pedo elite signs off on it collectively.

          This is why most of the world hates you btw.

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            Sorry I shouldve probably said “we’d have less to complain about”. I dont support us getting involved in another war in the middle east, I support that idea EVEN LESS when we start a war in the ME without using the proper channels. And I cant disagree with you there, we constantly get involved in shit around the world that we shouldnt be, and that nobody has asked us to, in the interest of “spreading democracy”.

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        Acknowledging that they are our greatest threat is not a commitment to do anything. Democratic presidents have always been reactionary to threats. Iran was not doing anything new or different at the time that Trump started bombing the snot out of them.

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          Democratic presidents have always been reactionary to threats.

          They sure are. Like Libya… or Yemen… or Yugoslavia… or…

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      This situation is literally downstream of a democrat committing genocide in the region. You’re a fool if you think this wasn’t happening under Kamala. Based on what ‘zero difference between me and Biden’ signal she gave during the election do you think she would diverge from this course? Stopping the entity from starting the war? Following the logic of escalation to seek a victory from a position of defeat? Foolish.

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    You guys only have one joke, and it was barely funny back when it was relevant. Given everything that’s going on right now, it’s just sad.

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        I absolutely agree with you. She was a terrible candidate. But anyone still claiming she was anywhere near as bad as Trump, needs to take a look around.

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          a diet-genocide is still the same thing as a full-fat-genocide.

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      We get it, you’re still mad at the commies for not falling in line behind Girlboss Hitler

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        No. I’m mad that the American left is so politically uneducated that they can’t tell the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist. You guys all think they’re the same…even though from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals almost as much as they hate Socialists.

        And it makes me sad that people don’t even realize that it’s the Fascists that want you to think the Liberals are worse than they are…all while convincing the Liberals that Socialists are the ones that want to take away their freedoms.

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          the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist.

          Haha, lol, lmao even

          Free Palestine

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          Your good guys literally committed a genocide. You’re a fucking clown.

          No. I’m mad that the American left is so politically uneducated that they can’t tell the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist.

          GUESS THE DIFFERENCE ISN’T FUCKING GENOCIDE

          from a historical standpoint

          The raw fucking irony of whining about people’s political literacy and then saying this shit.

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            The amount of guilt by association in this comment would make Israeli propagandists proud. You nailed the total lack of nuance perfectly.

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              Oh, are israeli propagandists bad or something? Is it a mark on your character to support them or something?

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              What the fuck do you think the word nuance means, you fucking idiot?

              Since the rest of your comment is just smugly talking to yourself, totally nailing the vapid ignorance. “Um actually the people you don’t like would like you because you were mean to me” stupid fucking baby.

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                We slaughtered a hundred thousand or so but we didn’t say fuck words, it’s very nuanced honey

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          … from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals …

          they’re the same thing where it matters; you need to go back and study history that isn’t written by a capitalist.

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            So, do you think it’s just propaganda that the Nazis were anti-liberal? And by extension, do you think that the MAGA movement today is a pro-liberal movement?

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              The Nazis worked hand in hand with liberals, and after the war liberals helped protect them and use them for the US space program and to lead organizations like NATO.

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                Oh, wow. So, you don’t distinguish between the collaborators and those who opposed fascism? That’s a very interesting blindspot you have. Convenient, too.

                Does that also work for the Soviet Union? They collaborated with the Nazis too, remember?

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                  The liberals only opposed fascism once it was clear that the Nazis were going to attack them as well. Fascists like Batista in Cuba were worked with to the very end, never once opposing them. As for the soviets, they never did collaborate with the Nazis.

                  What happened was the soviets spent an entire decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, while the liberals were gleefully working with the Nazis. The soviets signed a non-aggression pact on the eve of war to buy time.

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          The democrats are a party of imperialists, just like the republicans. Neither party is capable of changing the US Empire for the better, because both are fully committed to the imperial project. Fascists and liberals actually get along a lot better than you think, because both are fundamentally on the same side of imperialism and capitalism while socialists are on the opposite.

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            That shows a remarkable lack of understanding about how democracy works. Voters decide who makes up those parties. And Democrats especially are not all the same. Many of them are not imperialists. Unfortunately, many of them are…but it isn’t universal. And the only way to tip the balance against imperialism, is to run leftists for every possible position there is. Up and down the ballot.

            But, then you have to actually show up and vote for them when they are in the race. If you don’t…then nothing will ever change.

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              No, voters do not decide who makes up the DNC and the GOP. Their donors do. Who you can vote for is already pre-approved by their donors. Secondly, the DNC is an imperialist party, because they all wish to retain the IMF, NATO, capitalism itself, and all that goes into imperialism as the necessary endpoint of late-stage capitalism.

              The only way to fight against the US Empire is by overthrowing it. As long as capitalism is maintained, so too will imperialism be maintained. You cannot have late-stage capitalism without imperialism, and the democrats can’t go against their donor-base, which is where they derive their political power from.

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                So, your only solution is violence? Not solidarity?

                I mean, if you think you can achieve anything using the first, without having the second already locked in…you will have cracked the code for universal regime change. I’m pretty sure you could just wave that magic wand and overthrow any government in the world.

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                  So, your only solution is violence? Not solidarity?

                  You voted for a genocide as a solution instead of having solidarity with it’s victims.

                  Because you wanted to go back to not caring about politics.

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                  What do you mean by “violence, not solidarity?” Revolution can only come from an organized revolutionary class. The working classes cannot be organized within the boundaries of a capitalist-controlled and dominated party that focuses entirely on legal measures.

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      Yeah, we need More female and diverse drone bomber pilots and concentration camp guards!!

      The Status Quo vs The Status Quo But Worse is a totally free and fair election, liberal democracy is not just a placeholder for fascism!