• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    I bet you would, but as long as you repeat common red-scare myths and insist on viewing history as something metaphysical and not something that progresses over time, you aren’t going to be able to get closer to the truth.

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      I never said history was metaphysical or wasn’t something that progresses. As long as you keep reading things into my statements you’re going to keep responding to arguments I never made.

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        It’s not a direct statement you’ve made, just your insistence on looking at snapshots in time instead of graphs and trajectories. When I suggested you look at what came before, you rejected it, saying you only care about the here and now. This is metaphysics, erasing history from analysis.

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          The direct statements I’ve made are directly against that. You’re arguing in bad faith if you’re going to put words in my mouth for me and insist I said what I didn’t.

          I can have a discussion about the present without focusing on the past or future. Saying that it is metaphysics is a non-sequitur. Not everything has to be viewed historically.

          What you’re doing is you’re using dialectical materialism as a veneer to deflect criticism here.

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            No, they don’t go against that. Trying to focus on a present snapshot rather than contextualize a process that exists as something constantly changing is metaphysics. Tomorrow, China’s queer rights will be a bit better than today, if we have the same conversation tomorrow but only view it as another snapshot then we will reach a point where you say “China good” and this will all have been forseeable had we analyzed it as something in motion, rather than static.