• QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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    How much Chinese media do you watch? How much time have you spent on Chinese social media? How fluent are you in Chinese? Or did you just get told this by other white people and decided to just go along with it because it confirms your biases.

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        Find a graph of these views over time, history is not a series of static snapshots. The PRC has been regularly improving with respect to queer rights and representation over time, showing no signs of stopping.

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          They’re still banning TV shows/clips that feature queer stories or characters, there’s been literal police raids where people have been asked to remove rainbow articles of clothing, rainbows are censored on TV. This is all very recent stuff within the past five years.

          Idk man, seems like they’re desperate to erase our existence if you ask me.

          Even if it’s not “as bad” as it once was, and if it “has potential”, that’s not where it is right now. Which is that it’s an oppressive place for queer people right now, factually. Stop defending that.

          China isn’t the perfect haven free from all criticism that some people make it out to be.

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            I’m not defending repression, I’m pointing out that you’re using queer identity as a club to beat a country that is steadily improving and showing no signs of slowing or stopping that growth. It’s the same logic on your part that Zionists use to say queer advocates for Palestine are “defending homophobia.” History and social progress exist as a progression of time, not as a static snapshot.

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                    I’m queer myself, of course I find the present level of queer rights in China to be insufficient. This isn’t something that exists outside of the context of its own historical progression, though, which is why your argument is the same as those who use Palestinian queer rights as a reason queer people shouldn’t support Palestine.

                    No, China is not perfect. It has real problems. What I am taking issue with is 2 of your major flaws:

                    1. Inventing issues with China, like calling it “fascist,” a “dictatorship,” or saying there’s “Uyghur genocide.”

                    2. Erasing real problems from their historical context and trajectories, making problems that are improving over time seem static and permanent.

                    These point to your chauvanism and dogmatism.