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    An actually interesting use of artificial intelligence being able to accomplish something, when put in the hands of expert mathematicians. Definitely a lot of coaxing it back to doing the task correctly but it is pretty cool that it can solve problems (even if they are math nerd ones) in a way that are independently verifiable.

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      In the hands of experts these are definitely useful. I’ve always felt that.

      Ai should be used to augment humans, not replace them.

      Unfortunately we have idiots making decisions looking at the sycophant BS machine without knowing what the job actually does

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Exactly, when you dig into all the complaints people have about this tech, they’re ultimately just symptoms of the underlying capitalist relations.

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          You can read Marx’s chapters on technology in Capital volume 1, and what he describes from his own time about how tech is developed and for whose benefit and specifically how it has to exploit workers in order to be useful to capital; it matches so closely with the development of AI that we are seeing.

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          Yes.

          I’d feel a lot less annoyed at my code being used to train the AI (without my consent) if the AI’s benefits weren’t funnelled into private pockets.

          I’d feel a lot less annoyed at AI if it wasn’t constantly use to replace jobs and then fail at it. Actually, AI isn’t replacing jobs, it’s being used as an excuse to do layoffs while pretending your company is being innovative, so as not to scare off investors.

          Without a profit motive there wouldn’t be ChatGPT Health, which is just faking medical skills while being wrong as often as a coin toss, in exchange for money. If I did that I’d be sued for negligence and/or fraud.

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        The problem is always techbros. Large Language Models, Deep Learning, these kinds of things are potentially valuable when put to work in the right arena.

        A techbro will never put them in the right arena. It’s always a false promise built on flimsy reputational credit.

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      They are useful tools. I use copilot quite often in my work routine. Mostly to generate boiler plate code for me, add explanatory comments, review code for syntax and logic mistakes, etc. They can handle analysis and debugging quite well. They can usually write code based on plain language input if you can describe specifically what you need. And they can write documentation fairly well based on it’s own analysis of the code (though sometimes it’s missing context).

      They’re still not a silver bullet by any means. If their training on a particular language is limited and/or documentation is not accessible, it often makes up stuff wholecloth that looks like it might work but isn’t correct syntax (it was basically useless with Dynatrace Query Language when I was learning the syntax last year). Sometimes it doesn’t follow instructions exactly. Sometimes even when just refactoring code like to reduce complexity it ends up making unintended changes to the logic. Sometimes I end up spending as much time or more debugging AI generated code as it would have taken to write it correctly the first time.

      It’s handy, but it’s no silver bullet. The fact that these guys got something so novel and complicated out of it is quite impressive and probably required a lot of data input, precise mathematical instructions and, frankly, luck and a lot of iterations.