venezuela.
shit, the entirety of south america.
And middle east and some chunks of Africa and few strategic locations in far east and…
B-b-b-b-b-but China might, possibly, at some point in the future, try to reclaim Taiwan! Both sides! Two things true at once! Me speculating about something possibly happening is the exact same as the thing actually happening!
Hasn’t China stated that they intend to reclaim Taiwan? Don’t they claim Taiwan as part of their country right now?
Yes, as they have since the war, just as Taiwan claims China. Your point?
Peace with Taiwan has been maintained for nearly a hundred years, with a mutual understanding that nobody would try to force the issue too hard (look up “strategic ambiguity”). In recent years, the US has been recklessly deviating from that understanding and now people treat the status quo as “Chinese aggression,” because of propaganda.
There is no “claim” to be made and there is no “reclaim” to be had against such a claim.
Taiwan is and always has been recognized as part of the country of China. That’s why the losing army in the civil war went there - because it was part of the country they were a party of.
China has stated for 70 years that the island province of Taiwan will be integrated into the rest of the governance of the country. For 50 years it has explicitly stated it will be integrated peacefully, because the CPC recognizes that doing it forcefully would actually be contradictory and create a constant guerilla warfare situation as well as invite the world’s militaries to intervene. The CPC has no intention of forcing Taiwan to integrate except if Taiwan works with foreign governments to establish a substantial and real threat to the security of the mainland.
If China waits long enough, the Western economies will collapse and Taiwan will very quickly and easily realize that the West just can’t support them anymore and when they look to see who they depend on for nearly everything, and who their relatives are and who their dominant trading partner and who can protect them militarily, it’s going to be an easy process of integrating the provincial government of Taiwan into the government of the mainland - especially since the CPC is committed to One Country Two System meaning the provincial government of Taiwan can continue operating with the same structure and same politicians and same processes as it has now.
China seeks to reclaim Taiwan as part of China for the same reason Taiwan seeks to reclaim the mainland as part of China.
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Tbf China claiming Taiwan is pretty bad.
Imagine if US claimed Hawaii is theirs.A closer analogy would be: Imagine that after losing the Civil war, the Confederates flee to Puerto Rico, kill tens of thousands of people there for being “yankee sympathizers”, and establish 40 years of martial law while claiming to be the true and rightful government of the entire continental US.
Still not a good analogy because Puerto Rico was never a state of the USA. It would be more like if Long Island had been invaded by England and occupied after England beat the US in a war, and then the US had a war to kick the English off long island and then had a civil war immediately afterward and the loser fled to Long Island and said “we are the rightful government of the USA” and then Spain came by and started arming the fuck out of them while the loser of the civil war ran a fascist dictatorship for 40 years and killed tens of thousands of its own people for ever saying “maybe we could just negotiate a final surrender?”
Yeah it’s not perfect but I needed a small island off america lol
It’s more akin to the US claiming the ex confederate southern states (which it does), and other countries being “strategically ambiguous” and selling the Confederate remnants weapons and promoting their independence while officially recognizing the US/Washington
Greenland as strategig against Rusia and China is anyway a stupid argument, due tthat Alaska is separated by 4 km from Rusia, in cold winters you can go walking from the US to Rusia, and China has only commercial trading interests with other countries, not imperialistic ones, like this orange piece of shit.
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Greenland is way closer to way more of Russia than Alaska
Look on the map, don’t confuse a straight line distance on a sphere, the shortest distance from Greenland to Rusia go over the EU (Norway and Sweden), while in Alaska they need a simple Zodiac or even Walking in the Winter.
We’re talking about missiles
Even with missiles there isn’t any reason to invade Greenland, apart of a NATO member, there is already an US Base there since 50 years. No, Rusia and China are not the reason, but rare earth in Greenland are, like in Venezuela the oil, not the democracy… The next is Panama and Canada in the expansions plan “to make America great again” (and the paria for the rest of the world).
Distance from the eastern most part of Russia to Moscow is 6300 km. It is literally on the other side of the planet, the longitude seperation is almost 200 degrees.
Do you know what that means? It is faster to go from Alaska through Canada, the Atlantic ocean, then through Europe to get to Moscow than it is to go by the eastern side of Russia.
an imperialist empire, lol
Yeah America sucks
China is still bad too
Russia is still bad too
Who good?
Eu is doing okay tho trending downward, India is trending upward but not there yet. Uruguay doing okay. Brazil doing okay. Vietnam is trending up. Thailand is good. Australia is doing okay but trending downward. I’m not saying they’re good just okay, but Better than China and US.
As a European, I can promise you the the EU isn’t good.
It’s a neoliberal cult that purposefully keep its poor eastern members down for the benefit of its wealthy western members; continues to meddle in and exploit Africa by any means at their disposal, including coups, invasions, funding and arming of death-squads and assassinations, even decades after so called “decolonization”; cultivate an attitude of horrific and bloodthirsty racism among their population, especially against migrants despite being the cause of most mass migrations in the first place, in order to keep migrants miserable and their labor cheap; fund and arms a genocide as we speak; has purposefully let overt and covert neo-Nazi factions gain power in every of its member states; stabbed their own economy for the benefit of the US, multiple times; and so on and so forth.
On the scale of “badness” the EU is right behind the US, they’re just more subtle and quiet about their evil than the US is.
The EU is imperialist though, and as the US Empire is falling they fall with it. China’s better than both, as it isn’t imperialist and instead is trending upwards. I agree with Vietnam, though, it’s similar to China in that both are rising, both are socialist, and neither are imperialist.
When you’re trying to claim that “China bad” but then arguing that the fucking EU is good, your basically just admitting you’re a western supremacist
China is very vocal about taiwan being theirs.
Edit: Insane how much this this one factual statement has been interpreted.
Both the PRC and ROC (Taiwan) claim sovereignty over all of China. Neither considers the island of Taiwan to be distinct from China, the question is over which government has legitimate sovereignty over all of China, and the overwhelming consensus globally is that it’s the PRC. Taiwan’s government is made up of the ones that lost the Chinese Civil War and fled to the island, slaughtered resistance, and have been protected by the west.
Legitimately asking, not trying to make a point; how long ago was that?
1949 was when the KMT retreated to Taiwan and declared martial law.
Oof, okay.
Yep, it coincides with the founding of the PRC in 1949, because that was when the CPC won the civil war against the KMT. Here’s a good background.
And Republic of China—aka the government of Taiwan Island—is very vocal about China, Mongolia and old Qing Dynasty territories being theirs.
old Qing Dynasty territories
Would be real funny to watch the US and friends do a 180 on freeing Tibet
it is tho, it’s been a part of china since the qinq dynasty in 17th century, the people in taiwan are exactly alike the ones in mainland china. It’s also in the best interest of both to reunificate, the US just wants to turn them into chinese ukraine for their geopolitical goals.
It is theirs. If you support Taiwanese separatism then you should be consistent and support all separatist movements. There’s plenty in Europe you should support them.
I refuse Taiwan separatism but support European separatist movements. What does this makes me?
Morally correct on my book.
Your moral book shall be kept on based library of fully-automated gay space communism.
I haven’t looked into all European separatist movements, but afaik that makes you based
I checked the list and I think I’m against separatist movements in Russia and Serbia for now because of their obvious impcore-led origins.
Do you have a reasonable explanation of why it should be the US’s and not theirs?
Can’t it just be Taiwan’s?
Taiwan claims the mainland is theirs, the mainland claims Taiwan is theirs, because both claim to be the legitimate government of all of China, and Taiwan is a part of China.
Taiwan exists only because the US intervened to stop the fascists it supported in the civil war from being wiped out, so it’s necessarily a US protectorate/puppet.
And to circle back again to your question, no it couldn’t be; they killed the people who were there before they moved in.
Probably because it clearly is
