Can I use my german passport to travel to USA or do I use my US passport?

And if I lived and worked in germany my whole life and never in the USA and never filed taxes can I enter USA without problems?

I just found out I am us citizen a few years ago don’t ask why but I’m 34 and recently traveled to US with my german passport and they were all like “wtf where is your passport” and I’m like: “Here…” and they “Yeah your american passport?!” and I’m “I’m german” and he is like: “Dude you are born on american ground you are american!”

Well they let me travel in to the states without american passport but told me to go to the embassy as soon as I arrive back in germany or else I won’t be able to enter USA again.

That being said, I done that. Now I have my american passport. But do I show both passports or only US passport? And after doing my research I found out americans file taxes every year. I haven’t done it the last 18 years of working. Should I just not file? I will never work in the USA and I will never live in the USA. Or will I get problems at the airport? Can they see I don’t file?

  • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    If you were born in the USA, lived in Germany your whole life, and only recently learned of your US citizenship, you need to seek legal advice from a German law firm or from the government. I suspect that getting your US passport was a huge mistake. You may want to contest the validity of your citizenship, as it doesn’t sound like it offers you any benefits, and might actually be a financial liability.

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    6 months ago

    my guy…

    US citizens are obligated to enter the US on their US passport. They are also obligated to file taxes regardless of where they live. As a US citizen, you could be living on Mars for your whole life and still have to file US taxes.

    You also have what, 6 years of back taxes to file? You should find a CPA with knowledge us US/German tax laws to prepare that for you. There may be treaties in place.

    As someone else said, there’s also the selective service you were supposed to have registered for

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      I pay taxes in Germany, I earn about 40.000 € a year. So I don’t know.

      I tried the IRS homepage but my english isn’t good enough to file taxes. I don’t understand much.

      I am 35 years old and the lady that gave me my american passport tried to explain to me that I don’t have to sign up for selective service anymore, I am too old lol. I didn’t understand much of what she explained but she said: “it’s fine don’t sign up for it it’s for young people” and sent me out of the embassy in munich.

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        6 months ago

        Selective Service is “the draft”. It’s where the country can force you into military service.

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    6 months ago

    I think the US you have to use your American one if you have it, no?

    A lot of countries have that rule.

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    If you will never live in the US, you should renounce your citizenship. This will be permanent and irrevocable, so consider it wisely. This eliminates any issue with not filing taxes while working overseas.

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      In order to renounce my citizenship I have to file atleast 5 years to IRS lol. So even if I want to renounce my citizenship it’s currently not possible to do so because I haven’t filed in my life.

      In order to “file” taxes I also require a social security number which I don’t have. I honestly don’t know where to find it lol.

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        I suggest just not saying anything about it ever, and just tell the US govt you’re not a citizen at all if they ask.

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      Is this possible? I’ve heard, that no matter what you do as an expat you’ll always have to file taxes for the US IRS.

      From the point of view of the US, is renouncing citizenship even a thing? For Turkey for example it is not. You just can’t “delete” your Turkish citizenship.

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        Yes, it is a thing in the US. People do it mostly to avoid filing taxes with the US when they don’t plan on ever living here. It’s rather expensive and time consuming. You have to pay a big fee ($2350 + any unpaid taxes) to do it and set up an appointment with the embassy/consulate.

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    Researching around this cause I thought it was interesting, certainly not an expert. Apparently your case is considered an “accidental American” and you can probably search for others in your scenario. The IRS has a tax treaty with Germany that should be able to help you reduce (or maybe eliminate) your tax burden.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/tax-implications-dual-citizenship-what-you-need-know-daniel-morris-jfxle https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/united-states-income-tax-treaties-a-to-z

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    6 months ago

    according to US law it’s illegal as a citizen not to enter with your US passport.

    I’m also dual with Australia and never travel on my US passport.

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    6 months ago

    You never filed for tax return in 18 years - in Germany? Mate, I get back about 1500-2000€ every year, do it.

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      The US gives you that money ever year 1re filling fro taxes to the US on your German income?

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        No, in Germany you pay taxes every month. At the end of the year you can do a text return where you ask for some of that back. Usually expenses that are work or kids related (traveling for work, job seeking, after school etc). Nothing to do with the US…

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      I do taxes in germany and their is a tax partnership or something what I see. But I get about 700 € back a year too from germany.