Seriously what is this? Nintendo argues that by instructing users how to extract the prod.keys from their own switch the yuzu developers are essencially infringing on the DMCA.

So what? Now you can’t even freely use your own property anymore because it goes against the design intentions of some big company that just want’s to milk their users?

Nintendo goes directly after this argument in its lawsuit, arguing that buying a Switch game only means you “have Nintendo’s authorization to play that single copy on an unmodified Nintendo Switch console.”

  • @azenyr@lemmy.world
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    464 months ago

    Streisand effect is currently very active on this one. Thousands of news outlets, many extremely casual and geared towards average joes who never new emulation existed, are now all being told that “this thing called yuzu can play switch games for free”. Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot. Even if Yuzu dies, it will get forked and people who never knew emulation existed, now do, and look for alternatives.

  • @j4k3@lemmy.world
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    464 months ago

    There is no such thing as justice in courts. Lawsuits are corporate weapons.

    Like (first hand experience in California) if you do not have 100k in liquid assets available right now, and you get injured by someone else, you’re not going to get jack shit for some lawsuit. You can’t navigate it on your own because of all the bullshit, and you’ll need lots of “expert witnesses”. Here is a little secret, expert witnesses are all academic opinion mercenaries that cost around 6k-10k each on an open market. You’ll need a bunch of them to counter whatever the other side does. In the USA it is all a formality in court. Whoever buys the most mercenaries wins the game. The insurance company or firm on retainer gets a bulk discount on mercenaries. The Supreme Court is not the only extremely corrupt institution here. Right, wrong, it’s all irrelevant. We are all worthless serfs in neo feudalism.

  • @zarenki@lemmy.ml
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    234 months ago

    instructing users how to extract the prod.keys from their own switch

    Yuzu’s quick start guide links to the old download link for Lockpick RCM from the same repo that is still inaccessible ever since Nintendo’s DMCA takedown last year (source: arstechnica). They never updated the page to link to any mirrors of Lockpick RCM or any other options to extract the keys; the guide doesn’t even work right now. You can see in Yuzu site’s changelog on github that the only changes made to that page in the last year are to minimum/recommended hardware requirements.

    It seems even more absurd to argue that instructions are somehow infringing when the allegedly infringing part of them has already been broken for almost a year. Even the standing for taking down Lockpick RCM in the first place seems questionable, and telling users to use it with a broken link seems several layers further detached from that.

      • @zarenki@lemmy.ml
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        94 months ago

        Ethically, I agree with you. More than that, using a lockpick on a lock you bought shouldn’t make you a thief. Unfortunately, DMCA has abysmal anti-circumvention measures that make the legality of using a device you own in ways you should be able to become questionable under US law, in the digital equivalent of Master Lock suing you for picking a lock you bought from them.

        • PropaGandalfOP
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          24 months ago

          Who said that I would use them? Maybe I just want them laying around and collecting dust? /s

    • Cyclohexane
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      It’s futile. You are no match against a multi national corporation.

        • @Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world
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          a) Your license footer is really cool! I will start including it as well.

          b) Aren’t quotes a bit problematic, as you include them in your work? This one is probably fine, as you (quite artistically) paraphrased it but direct quotes would be a problem, right?

          CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

          • @AliasAKA@lemmy.world
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            I think the Creative Commons would fail to apply to the source material, but using the source material should be fair use in almost every context on Lemmy.

          • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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            14 months ago

            a) 💖

            b) I’m not entirely sure how quotes should work. I imagine that if you quote such licensed text immediately after, it’s quite obvious who you’re quoting. But if you quote it on some blog somewhere out in the interwebs, proper attribution must be given.
            Newspapers do have to attribute whatever they quote (and if they’re respectable, they will) because they’re trying to earn money with it, but beyond that… no idea. I’m not a lawyer.
            Good question though

            CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

  • HexesofVexes
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    194 months ago

    Welcome to the age of the licence, where you pay to be given permission to use something in a specific way.

    • 7heo
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      This is nothing new. There is no “age of the licence”. “Intellectual property” is much of what modern “capitalism” is about, and has been for several decades.

      The initial idea of capitalism was to have capital to back up your activity, and use that activity to develop your capital. The capital was composed of whatever you could “retain” as yours, by your own means. Meaning you had to get the skills, you had to actively retain the capital, etc. So it was self limiting. One cannot possibly retain more than one estate or learn more than a couple lines of work all by themselves.

      But then, people started selling services in addition to goods, and those who had capital quickly realised that it was far more profitable to pay someone a fraction of their capital to extend their possibility beyond their own means.

      So capitalism became some kind of club: if you already had established trust with a group that let you grow capital beyond your own means, you could effortlessly obtain capital, and grow it steadily, with virtually no limits. It was then still possible to become part of that club (given some starting capital and an ever increasing amount of work).

      However, that changed in the 70s when nixon decided to abandon the gold standard in 1971. This move essentially got rid of the need for a tangible capital, and allowed the mental concept of “trust” to be the only necessary metric by which capital is measured.

      This is the exact reason people like trump can strive. Con artists love this system, because they only need their skills, which consist solely of lying, to develop any amount of wealth, out of thin air.

      The damage effected by nixon on the north american societies, and by extension on the western societies, and by transaction, on all societies worldwide, will only be truly understood in centuries, by historians, when our epoch will be studied as a static set of facts, rather than a dynamic stream of information of varying veracity.

      Anyway, to the point: this in itself was the beginning of the end of capitalism as a meaningful economic system. But it wasn’t the last blow to its integrity. Progressively, Intellectual Property, a falsehood according to which information exhibits the same set of properties as matter, went on to relentlessly turn capitalism into a kleptocracy.

      Since the 80s, and the advent of computing, information has taken an ever more important part in society. And with it, “intellectual property”.

      By now, any capitalist with the “title to” an information can effectively forbid anyone else from having that idea.

      This is the actual problem. That and the imaginary money. It allows all kind of abuse, and it does so nonlinearly. Which is an especially bigger problem now that anyone can automate nearly anything.

      People naturally have issues understanding nonlinear progressions, and that is why Ponzi schemes work. And, also, why no meaningful majority rebels against our current system. They simply are unable to truly understand it.

    • Franklin
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      84 months ago

      Yuzu and Riyujinx (another switch emulator) work great, expect a bit of setup though

    • Fishbone
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      No firsthand experience (yet. Subject to change soon though) but i’ve heard reports across the board that switch emulation is often superior to actual switch performance. I heard plenty of times that Pokemon scarlet/violet can run at 60 fps with no dips at all, where my switch struggled to hit 30 in some areas.

    • @InputZero@lemmy.ml
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      24 months ago

      Imo, obtaining, distributing and consuming pirated IP is a grey area. Selling pirated IP is not okay. Interwebs pirates should share, not sell.

      • @BellaDonna
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        It’s not a grey area in the US, just because it’s rarely prosecuted to individuals, it is most certainly illegal.

  • @Imhotep@lemmy.world
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    Which emulator should I use for the latest Zelda on Linux?

    CEMU and BotW worked great. Yuzu wasn’t really working at the time but maybe it’s the better option now?

  • @kaffiene@lemmy.world
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    14 months ago

    I fear regardless of the merits of the case, that Nintendo will just batter Yuzu with lawyers until they win.

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      they will never win, it’s an open source code, anyone can fork an re-distribute It, they can’t realistically lawsuit tens of thousands of people, some of which sre totally incognito