• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlEnglish
    19·
    11 days ago

    People in this thread: BUT WHAT ABOUT LIFE EXPECTANCY?!?!

    Bro you really want to argue life expectancy in favour of the ideology that argues whether curing a patient is makes business sense?

    Your long life expectancy is thanks to science, which has existed for a far greater percentage of human history. To argue it’s because of capitalism is dumb as hell.

    Also life expectancy took a nosedive when the Soviet Union fell. Wonder why.

  • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
    12·
    11 days ago

    For the people who are dunking on this by saying that historically things have been fucked up:

    I think the point of the tweet is that systemic development doesn’t stop at capitalism.

    I’m pretty sure lots of educated people during the feudal era were saying that it was the best system available and at least they were dying less often than the Romans.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
      34·
      12 days ago

      The rise in life expectancy has fuck all to do with capitalism given that life expectancy in both Cuba and China is higher than the US right now. Meanwhile, slavery continues to be the backbone of western economies.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
          26·
          12 days ago

          Not sure what point you’re even trying to make here. Life expectancy has been improving due to science and technology improving.

          You could starve to death because your crop had been taken by the lords or die hanged to a tree because you complained

          That’s literally how things work today where western corps exploit the workers in the global south. That’s what your lifestyle in the west is built on. Go read up on the coups, death squads, and other atrocities the west regularly commits around the world to keep the system of exploitation going. Here’s a good primer for you https://archive.org/details/KillingHope

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              19·
              12 days ago

              Last I checked, the genocide of the native population of America was fuelled by the British capitalism. Notably, capitalism was also the primary driver of African slave trade.

                • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  11·
                  11 days ago

                  Wow, how convenient: “it wasn’t a perfect utopia so you’re not allowed to blame capitalism for it”.

                  A reasoning as perfectly smooth and circular as your brain

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          16·
          12 days ago

          No, you’re the only one here that doesn’t realize that OP is advocating for socialism. This is a meme attacking capitalist realism, not stating that feudalism was better. You’re in the fringe minority with that misinterpretation.

          The west is authoritarian in that capitalists have full control, yes, and the PRC is making tremendous strides thanks to socialism.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  11·
                  12 days ago

                  The right direction would obviously be socialism with public ownership of the means of production and an economy being directed towards meeting the needs of working majority as opposed to a handful of elites. Should be pretty obvious, yet here you are.

            • Narri N. (they/them)@lemmy.mlEnglish
              5·
              11 days ago

              I can see you already got told multiple times in these comments. But then again, I think, most can also see you don’t actually know anything you are talking about, OR don’t care to know because you are a right-wing fucknut. So, uh.

                • Narri N. (they/them)@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  10 days ago

                  I see your centrist attitude is more advanced that other centrists’, so much so that it no longer enables fascism, unlike every other centrist! wow, you are so smart, i am totally in awe of you.

    • fulm@lemmy.ca
      93·
      12 days ago

      I fail to see what any of this has to do with an economic system. These are scientific or legal topics.

      And indeed, slavery is present under unchecked capitalism as well.

    • Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml
      6·
      11 days ago

      “…including being crucified, eaten by lions in a public show, and being sewn alive inside a bag with various animals and thrown in the river to drown.”

      We’ve barely evolved at all. I just heard the President of the US relishing the idea of escapees from his concentration camp being eaten by alligators.