• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Conservatives want to bring us back to the first one, because “it’s naive childishness to even pretend people could be equal”.

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      5 days ago

      Both liberal and conservatives benefit from inequality. Conservatives are just more vocal about it.

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    8 days ago

    Blue shirt keeps doing sus hand gesture in every panel idk if we should let him have any apples

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      7 days ago

      I am assuming that it is because people see “equality” as the epitome of human fairness, so it is questioning that.

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        7 days ago

        Sounds like it’s saying “or maybe this isn’t real equality?”, which is very counter to what I assume is its intended message, an attempt to convince the reader that equality isn’t the epitome of human fairness.

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          Well, equality is sometimes referred to in the vain of “everyone is equal” rather than “everyone is treated equal”. I think that might be what it’s saying. When the social idea of equality first emerged, I cannot imagine even for a second that they were like “yeah, everyone should be given exactly the same things regardless of their personal situation”, because nobody striving for an idea LIKE equality would come to that resolution. Like, equity is just what equality should have been in the first place.

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    8 days ago

    Communism will never exist ,it’s utopia ,it becoming authoritarianism very quickly.We need other real alternatives to what we have now

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      Marxism is anti-utopian, it’s based on analyzing how societies evolve over time. What is deemed “authoritarianism” is the need for the proletariat to exert its control over the bourgeoisie, rather than the reverse, yet bourgeois rule is more authoritarian.

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      8 days ago

      I guess it will never exist for you then

      But it will exist for me. My favorite communism is extra authoritarian. I love having a state to rely on. A state that fights against evil for me, a state that provides me with what I need, a state that gives me a meaningful job.

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      8 days ago

      I recommend you don’t get your information about communism solely from devout anti-communists

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      8 days ago

      This echoes my concerns every time someone (especially under the age of about 40, especially American) praises “communism” (as if it were one thing) with some kind of absolute adoration.

      In this case, OP: how did that justice work for the political dissidents sent to gulags?

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        The vast majority of people sent to prison by the soviets were criminals, thieves, murderers, rapists, etc. The political prisoners were largely members of the White Army, fascists, monarchists, or were active terrorists against society. For a country that went through a revolution, resistance from the older owning classes is expected, other revolutions were similar in use of force against the monarchy and other ruling classes.