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Does that mean Republicans are going to vote Biden since they shill Russia?
Reverse psychology? Is he trying to make libs think that Biden has been compromised by Russia, therefore Trump wins, which is actually what Putin wants?
It’s just trolling. Next magas will say “he’s scared of Trump” and so on.
no one is saying he is scared of Trump there are other reasons he might be less hopeful of a trump win
Sure
Exactly. Putin is really concerned about student loan debt.
What the debt biden has done nothing to help aleviate? I think the most he has done is contenue to delay the payments, but there has been no forigivenss to
That will not do anything they are all controled by capital, There will be some new reason some new group of senators or Members of the House who will block it, for some reason, it happens every time. The one real difrence between the 2 parties is reteoric, and the speed of internal decay, and even the second one is becoming less of a distiguishing factor.
Are you sure you’re thinking hard enough? Maybe we can help crowdsource ideas. Here’s one: another real difference is that Texas and other states are using unwilling women and children as incubators now.
I don’t think that anywhere near as many people that thought Trump was “compromised” would believe Biden has been. If anything Biden constantly demanding more and more money and arms stockpiles from the US to go to Ukraine is kind of a win for Russia. As it means less money and arms are being kept by the US. It weakens us in money and supplies. The constant cheerleading about standing with Ukraine until the end and all territories are returned, kind of makes it hard to save face and cut off the supply line. Trump being much more prone to impulses and thrives on attention is much more likely to change directions even if people scream at him about it. Just as long as he can be the centre of attention and not really care about the situation.
That being said, Putin is definitely fucking with everyone. It helps create chaos for both parties to constantly be too focused on accusing each other of being “compromised.” And the best part is that he doesn’t even have to actually do anything other than exist for this to happen.
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Putin is no one’s friend but his own. I could go on but I remember your pro-Ruzzia tirades and it isn’t worth arguing with bad faith arguments, you’ll learn for yourself eventually when, shocking no one, shills like you outlive your usefulness and get disposed of.
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“Only the US has ever committed war crimes and genocide, my side is perfectly clean! I am very smart!”
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I didn’t say you lived in Russia. I meant “your side” as in, the side you defend. Meaning Russia, in this case, allegedly.
Putin is no one’s friend but his own
On account of being an enemy of the US, not sapping wealth from developing nations like imperial core countries do, and defending their sovereignty against the US (like with Syria), he’s already very much a friend of the Global South.
There’s a reason songs like this are common across the developing world.
not sapping wealth from developing nations like imperial core countries do
Oh, like Wagner Group is doing in Sudan, Central African Republic, Burkina Faso, etc.? Good to know they’re not Russian. Or are you gonna tell me it’s fake news by the mainstream media?
The global south may feel relieved now, but they are merely trading western colonialism for eastern neo-colonialism. I hope they realize that before they can regret it, like Kenya is starting to with China.
https://youtu.be/KX2WVIaVUGo?t=23
I would say at least our electorate is smarter than Elmer Fudd, but…
https://youtu.be/MfGVB6xADGo?t=17
(yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that)
Nice.
or and here me out here, he is not lieing? just maybe, like you are doing lots of mental gymnastics to get to the point of he is lieing for reverse phycology and doing like a tripple bluff, when accams razer would sugest it is just he means what he says.
Note in no way am I pro Trump … nor do I want trump to win.
It doesn’t exactly take mental gymnastics to think Putin might lie about something if he thinks it’ll give him an advantage.
Agian I ask of Trudeau made the same claim, or the Prime Minister of New Zeeland, would you be making the same argument
I’m honestly not sure what you’re arguing for. All politicians lie constantly. I’m sure the ones you named also lie frequently. It’s all just mind games to confuse people during a war.
- this does not answer the question.
- do all politicians lie? is this like a universal truth of the universe? do they have to lie?
For 2., to be successful mostly so, unfortunately.
Agian, is this a universal truth or just in the US system or Liberal democratic system, is it not possible (and I am not saying the Russian Federation is this system I am now asking in hypotheticals) where that would not be the case
Agian I ask of Trudeau made the same claim, or the Prime Minister of New Zeeland, would you be making the same argument
Wouldn’t that depend on their particular geopolitical interests, which could be entirely different from those of Russia?
I feel like these questions are so absurd sometimes not because an answer is being sought but because it succeeds at the goal of degrading the quality of conversation.
I am not trying to degrade the conversation, but I know how they usualy go. What I am saying is I feel that there is a fundimental lack of understanding of the geoplolitical interists of russia, and not only that, it would be the simpliler solution to assume that Putin is speaking honestly when he says he would prefer to work with Biden, even if that reasoning is as simple as he thinks biden has a better chance of winning and saying this now will make deplomacy easier in the future. I think it is a bit bold to just jump to the conclusion that because Putin has said X he really means Y, and it feels much more like the world view you subscribe to requries putin and the Russian Federation to want Y so no matter what is being said you will make it so it really means he belives Y.
God damn mega troll… Gotta admire the legendary mind fuckery against for both sides though.
Imagine having coherent politics and recognizing that Putin knows that Biden is more stable than Trump and would be less likely to escalate the war in Ukraine…
…Instead of having to be like “is he playing mindgames? Is this him trolling us? He says he wants blue team to win in 2024, but we are blue team and we hate him!”
Trump seems like he is more likely to dismiss the war or help the Russian side by weakening NATO. Why would Biden be preferable to Russia if he is going to continue trying to supply Ukraine?
The thing is Trump would either weaken nato by insisting on member nations upping their military expenditures or escalate the war.
In the first case NATO doesn’t need to weaken for Russia to accomplish its immediate objectives, it is weak enough already.
In the latter case nukes might fly.
It makes sense for Putin to want Biden to stay president, there would be no additional winning and major risk with a Trump presidency.
or escalate the war.
This seems to run contrary to everything I’ve read about Trump’s position. The first half of what you said is at least somewhat accurate. But the second half is contradicted by numerous reports from Trump that his approach would have been to “take a deal” and get out, implicitly with substantial land concessions from Ukraine. And then there’s the fact that both of them have profess to having positive relationships with one another and admiring one another.
Trump did a random missile strike on an Iranian general, he can unpredictably escalate stuff.
But the second half is contradicted by numerous reports from Trump that his approach would have been to “take a deal” and get out.
Okay but do you think he’d actually follow through, and do you think that a negotiated end to the war would be a bad thing?
Trump did a random missile strike on an Iranian general
It wasn’t random. It was to appeal the warhawks in republican party. If you remember how it went, they were ramping up rhetorics and manufacturing consent for war with Iran, but that stopped really abruptly, like cut with knife. I don’t know what was the real reason or their combination, it might be that the manufacturing consent was not working as intended, maybe ithey pushed too fast, maybe Pentagon wasn’t ready, maybe because Iran shot down their most modern drone with old Soviet missile using domestically manufactured radar proving their deffensive capabilities were more significant than what Pentagon assumed. Anyway, the ramping to war stopped so suddenly that even the leading warhawk that is John Bolton was surprised and he even got sacked from WH which prompted him to publish book where he accuse Trump of being less warhawk than himself and many rep senators.
So Soleimani was assassinated to appease the warhawks and because US have to have last word.
He says he wants blue team to win in 2024, but we are blue team and we hate him!
Well we’re off to an awfully bad start because this is about the shallowest bad faith caricature I could possibly imagine. Let’s put it this way:
- Putin absolutely has a propaganda strategy aimed toward the west that utilizes a number of tools and messaging strategies
- Among the strategies reported on, one has been to escalate existing divisions within the United States, with one example reported on being creating opposing conservative and liberal events and scheduling them at the same location
- Purin preferred Trump for his first term
- Putin preferring Biden can be politically damaging to Biden in the context of domestic politics
- a Trump victory could prove exceptionally destabilizing to domestic politics in the United States
I’m not even 100% saying I’m right, but every step of this is perfectly reasonable, it doesn’t rely on any outlandish assumptions, and communication about this isn’t helped by mocking people with bad faith caricatures and performative incredulity.
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complains of caricature
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demonstrates the caricature
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So he likes that Biden is more “predictable” than Trump. Ig that’s true enough.
I believe it. Biden’s support of genocide is making the US a pariah state to the rest of the world stage.
Trump pushes the US away from the West. Biden pushes the US away from the rest.
A former CIA officer basically argued the same thing back in 2022
Welp we now know the truth… Putin is pushing for Trump again.
How do you get that, Like you took the longer and harder to understand path here, there is a path where he would prefer Biden for reasons of IDK deplomacy, now I do not understand why, as Biden has been just as bad as trump on that front, but there are some potential reasons.
Look if Justin Trudou said he wanted Biden to win, would you say he was pushing for trump?
Knowing how the right reacts, it seems much like “the people over there hate me, if I say I prefer someone they’ll vote against me.”
So he says he likes Biden knowing enough people will then vote Trump and push his agenda that way.
This makes no sense, All of the right is going to vote for trump NO MATTER WHAT anyone says, the only group that is avaliable to be swayed is the Liberals, and at this point, as seen by this post, they already have their mind made up that Putin wants the other guy to win, so no matter what he says it is some 4d chess to get trump elected. The simplest answer, is that for what ever reason, weather it be stability, or biden having dementia or what ever, he would rather a biden presidency.
Probably because that would cause more internal strife than a trump victory
Is this that new Russian secret weapon?
“Putin weaponises Biden”
Meaning he would really hate if biden wins. It’s always the same shit, accusing the “enemy” of exactly what they are doing, and pretending the exact opposite of what they want… Nothing new under the sun.
As if anyone cares
Americans seemed to care alot about Putin supposedly being a Trump supporter though
So that means dems will now have to turn against Biden because that admission is more proof than they ever had for Russiagate.
