• multifariace@lemmy.world
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      It is emotionally and intellectually painful using critical thinking while those around you are calling the other side Nazis.

      1 Nazis are bad 2 The other side are bad 3 The other side are Nazis Optional: add an example that confirms bias

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    I’ve been working through a few biographies of the top brass of Nazidom, and even with the rather perfunctory understanding I’ve gained from these books of Hitler’s seizure of power and all that followed in Nazi Germany, my ears are pricking up in horror every day as I listen to the latest news from around the world. And I’m not even going so far as the Holocaust. If the Holocaust and WWII never happened, the Nazi regime would still have been an unmitigated nightmare.

    The language certain politicians are using is plucked directly from the mouths of Goebbels’ and Himmler’s rotting corpses. How can they not see what lies ahead if they continue with this shit? We know how this story ends. We have examples of it from recent memory, we don’t even need to cast our minds back to the 1930s 🤷‍

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      The language certain politicians are using is plucked directly from the mouths of Goebbels’ and Himmler’s rotting corpses. How can they not see what lies ahead if they continue with this shit?

      What’s even more infuriating is that when you try to point this out to others, they act like you’re insane/exaggerating.

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      Some of them see it, and approve.

      Others are old and mentally ill, and care only for what power they can gain in their remaining few years, regardless of what that will bring later.

      Others are merely useful, and go along with whoever is currently in power.

      Others are afraid, so they do not oppose the changes, for fear of losing what they have, and desperately cling to hope that something else will stop the worst from happening.

      Others…

      and on and on it goes, just as it did before, just as it ever was, and quite frankly, now I see that so will it ever be.

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      the decent thing to do for WW3 is to start it on the 100th anniversary of WW2.

      i can only hope that the '39s would serve as a reminder each century to just fucking stop. (but more importantly, i hope to be naturally dead by then)

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    Hegel remarks somewhere[*] that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce

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      Something something heglian dialectics, something something new vegas, something something “Fuck caesar,blow his ass away, and Legate Lanius too”

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    Well you know what “they” say: those who study their history - FUCK! - still end up repeating it, when nobody else around does the same.:-(

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      Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
      Those who do learn from history are doomed to look on helplessly as everybody else repeats it.

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        And those who try to prevent the teaching of history intend to repeat it

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          Not always, sometimes they are merely useful idiots who legitimately do not know. Which makes them all the more dangerous bc they don’t come across as supporting Nazis, and they don’t even realize themselves what agenda they are furthering.

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        And due to such things as gerrymandering, we all get to share in the outcome.

        Another thing that “they” say:

        A stitch in time saves nine

        It is not for me to judge exactly, who was not quite there, but very little of what has been done has been performed in secret. People have been watching, and yes even warning us, every step of the way. Now, people are shocked, Shocked I say, SHOCKED, but… we should not be. We all knew, or at least were warned, about the consequences, we simply chose to ignore it all.

        e.g. Brexit looks to be something that can never be undone - as in even if it were technically to be done, the UK will never hold such a place of prominence again. It will fade into obscurity, eventually counting itself lucky to join the EU on whatever terms the latter will choose to dictate at that time.

        And the USA looks likely to not survive to see that happen - in its current form at least. Assuming that Trump loses the upcoming election, which seems still roughly 50% at this juncture, the Supreme Court shenanigans, the absolute, I mean near-total brokenness of Congress, and the very next election in little more than 4 years time still await. And this time, whoever sits atop the Executive Branch will have the legal authority to assassinate all of their political rivals. Like Brexit, this is by no means over and done, and we can still go so much lower from here.:-(

        Which might not be such a bad thing after all, to replace a broken system with a better one, but I do worry about this transition period.

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    Same. I haven’t used my history degree at all. It has just enabled the “oh, fuck” overdrive in my brain over the last several years. I hate it.

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    I really have begun to believe that politicians should employ historians to give advice on certain political events by drawing comparisons to previous situations.

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    If you think it hasn’t happend before, check again, nothing in history is new

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      When have we had AI so good the turing test lost it’s whole meaning overnight?

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    history degrees bell curve :

    idiot end : I don’t use my history degree

    middle : history degree is useless

    genius end : I am the MP for Gloucestershire and the cabinet minister for business