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…since its been two years…
Ten. It’s been ten years and the fact that so many people ignore this unfortunately makes the “Russian assets” argument look all that more legitimate. –It is a dumb argument but people really need to stop acting like this just started in 2022.
Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?
Yes that is indeed what happened.
Well you’re just stupid then
I might be, but lets put that to the side, why did russia invade ukraine?
If you’re actually curious and have 20 minutes, try this video: Ukraine: The Avoidable War
Demonstrate a good faith attempt to answer the question yourself. It’s been two years.
You’re the one that asked the question, “Because Russia just invaded out of nowhere, right?” It’s clearly your turn to answer here.
I wasn’t signing a contract to provide a service. I was mocking you for being oblivious/dishonest.
NATO expansion
NATO expansion
Which is not real. I am saddened you choose to believe in it.
NATO expansion
Which is not real. I am saddened you choose to believe in it.
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(via this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO …which will presumably amaze you)
Any kind of context is for nerds I guess?
He and I already gave context upthread, but here it is again.
- NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard: U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.
- Robert Parry, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
- Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
Are you trolling or uninformed? Maiden coup by the US? Murder of tens of thousands of ethnic Russians in the independent republics? Continual NATO overreach which Putin complained about to the UN multiple times?
My favorite pastime is swapping the word Ukraine with Palestine:
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Palestinians are not capable of defeating Israel. They need to make concessions with Israel and come to a peace agreement and two state solution. Palestinians should not fight back to recapture all their land. Israel will keep their word they are good for it.
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Compromise? Ukraine needs to push every last Russian out of Crimea and recapture all their land! Who cares if they will win, fight till the last Ukrainian!
Yes because Russia only exists because of the UK giving the land from whatever-brown-people
That last one a depressingly common perspective among people in power in Ukraine, including Zelensky.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/5/zelenskyy-says-wants-ukraine-to-become-a-big-israel
bad fedpost is bad. stop supporting genocide.
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Can you explain why supporting US interests in the middle east is bad (among others arms sales in “Israel”), but supporting US interests in Ukraine (arms sales, privatization) is good somehow?
Free Palestine, Fuck NATO.
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Jamecia backs New Zeland-Madagascar peace plan for Ukraine! Who cares!
