This strike is extremely confusing. It’s a space radar thats only other use case is as an early-warning radar for ICBMs (that is, in the event of nuclear war).
Why is Ukraine going after Russia’s nuclear triad? What the fuck is going on?
I would guess this is likely to get Russia to dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities because without that Putin knows he’s fucked.
The more anti-missile and anti-air are dedicated to protecting nuclear triad infrastructure, the less is protecting other assets like HQs, supply depos, aircraft and other conventional combat systems.
dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities
Are you hearing yourself? The nuclear capability is the protection. There’s a reason that during the Cold War nobody was stupid enough to attack someone else’s nuclear early warning radar. The entire principle of mutually assured destruction relies on both parties knowing what the other is NOT doing so they know that they don’t need to respond.
A preemptive strike is still suicide even if it’s done because early detection capabilities are reduced or lost. And a first strike against someone without early detection capabilities still isn’t a guaranteed win when the subs are still hidden and the doomsday device is still armed.
The implication being that somebody wants to launch a nuclear strike on Russia.
Attacking a country’s nuclear triad is cause for a nuclear retaliatory strike under all non-NFU doctrines. If Russia can’t identify whether an incoming object is a nuclear strike, any no first use doctrine goes out the window.
This is pushing us straight towards nuclear war with our eyes closed.
How is that the implication when there are lots of other explanations, one even given above?
If the target costs more than the missile (including the opportunity cost), and/or the target is a high priority for repairs, it makes sense to target it. It doesn’t need to be more complicated than that.
Our eyes aren’t closed. The ruling class wants it. The proles have been taught to want it - just go to any thread discussing Russia or China, you’ll see calls to bomb Three Gorges Damb or just a broad “bomb the blyats” (actual quote). Our eyes aren’t closed at all
Where are you reading that is a radar for ICBMs? The article just says a Krasukha radar jammer is reported to be there. Reading the Wikipedia article for these systems indicate that they can jam the radar for UAVs and drones. Since Ukraine has been using drones heavily, I can see why they would attack. I’m not saying that it doesn’t work against ballistic missiles but it’s seems like they have a lot of other applications to Russia’s war effort.
Saying that a radar jammer is protecting Russia’s nuclear triad is like… Well, obviously? Like, are you stupid, or are you just trying to justify nuclear war?
If you’re going to come at me with a link about Ukraine, please make sure it’s from a website that’s not run by this guy:
Ben Aris: There’s a narrative in the mainstream media about, you know, “Stand with Ukraine and never report the negative stuff, only report the positive stuff.” But people I deal with, professional investors in particular, they’re interested in what’s actually going on because they’ve got money in the game in the form of investments and assets.
I don’t think the negative stuff shouldn’t be reported but fuck him and his professional investor friends.
BTW: Ben Aris has controlling interest in the company that owns the link you shared and got his start in journalism in Moscow.
Open source researchers on social media suggested a Krasukha electronic warfare radar jammer had been positioned on the complex.
That’s why. The jammer is messing with Ukrainian operations and Russia put it there so they could scream “nuclear site!” if Ukraine ever went after it.
Because any country fighting a war on defense against aggressors/invaders knows that the path to winning is to hold strong, wait out the clock, and drain resources from the enemy. Something as essential as that will cause urgency to redirect resources and personnel to replace/repair and then better defend it so that it doesn’t just immediately happen again. This makes defense easier because there’s less of an offense while that’s happening. This also can cause internal loss of support since Russian citizens can see the costs of this going up. They will know people who were sent to die on the front lines. They will see taxes go up and availability of goods go down. Once Russian citizens start to question and criticize the campaign, there could be a snowball effect that ends with Putin and his cronies having to make a choice between stopping the invasion or losing power. I don’t think Putin will ever stop, so the real choice will be desperate attacks (which could include nukes, triggering article 5 and effectively ending Russia) or a coup. Putin has checkmated himself whether he is aware of it yet or not. His best case scenario at this point is dying of natural causes in office and leaving that hard decision to his successor who will probably back down and be a pariah for it, saving Russia in the process.
This strike is extremely confusing. It’s a space radar thats only other use case is as an early-warning radar for ICBMs (that is, in the event of nuclear war).
Why is Ukraine going after Russia’s nuclear triad? What the fuck is going on?
I would guess this is likely to get Russia to dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities because without that Putin knows he’s fucked.
The more anti-missile and anti-air are dedicated to protecting nuclear triad infrastructure, the less is protecting other assets like HQs, supply depos, aircraft and other conventional combat systems.
dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities
Are you hearing yourself? The nuclear capability is the protection. There’s a reason that during the Cold War nobody was stupid enough to attack someone else’s nuclear early warning radar. The entire principle of mutually assured destruction relies on both parties knowing what the other is NOT doing so they know that they don’t need to respond.
A preemptive strike is still suicide even if it’s done because early detection capabilities are reduced or lost. And a first strike against someone without early detection capabilities still isn’t a guaranteed win when the subs are still hidden and the doomsday device is still armed.
The implication being that somebody wants to launch a nuclear strike on Russia.
Attacking a country’s nuclear triad is cause for a nuclear retaliatory strike under all non-NFU doctrines. If Russia can’t identify whether an incoming object is a nuclear strike, any no first use doctrine goes out the window.
This is pushing us straight towards nuclear war with our eyes closed.
How is that the implication when there are lots of other explanations, one even given above?
If the target costs more than the missile (including the opportunity cost), and/or the target is a high priority for repairs, it makes sense to target it. It doesn’t need to be more complicated than that.
I guess the fear of nukes has waned since the end of the Cold War.
Y’all will literally sacrifice the entire world so long as Russia loses.
Our eyes aren’t closed. The ruling class wants it. The proles have been taught to want it - just go to any thread discussing Russia or China, you’ll see calls to bomb Three Gorges Damb or just a broad “bomb the blyats” (actual quote). Our eyes aren’t closed at all
Where are you reading that is a radar for ICBMs? The article just says a Krasukha radar jammer is reported to be there. Reading the Wikipedia article for these systems indicate that they can jam the radar for UAVs and drones. Since Ukraine has been using drones heavily, I can see why they would attack. I’m not saying that it doesn’t work against ballistic missiles but it’s seems like they have a lot of other applications to Russia’s war effort.
Saying that a radar jammer is protecting Russia’s nuclear triad is like… Well, obviously? Like, are you stupid, or are you just trying to justify nuclear war?
nuclear early warning system
If you’re going to come at me with a link about Ukraine, please make sure it’s from a website that’s not run by this guy:
Ben Aris: There’s a narrative in the mainstream media about, you know, “Stand with Ukraine and never report the negative stuff, only report the positive stuff.” But people I deal with, professional investors in particular, they’re interested in what’s actually going on because they’ve got money in the game in the form of investments and assets.
I don’t think the negative stuff shouldn’t be reported but fuck him and his professional investor friends.
BTW: Ben Aris has controlling interest in the company that owns the link you shared and got his start in journalism in Moscow.
Thank you!
PS. if you did the looking up or just know it, just drop it down!
useful info
PS2. i did not confirm if this guy is right but i trust a bro lol
If you’re going to discredit a link, please make sure that the statement itself is incorrect. You are being warned.
Kyiv Post also calls it an early warning radar complex: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34782
“won’t someone please think of the poor military targets”
That’s why. The jammer is messing with Ukrainian operations and Russia put it there so they could scream “nuclear site!” if Ukraine ever went after it.
Because any country fighting a war on defense against aggressors/invaders knows that the path to winning is to hold strong, wait out the clock, and drain resources from the enemy. Something as essential as that will cause urgency to redirect resources and personnel to replace/repair and then better defend it so that it doesn’t just immediately happen again. This makes defense easier because there’s less of an offense while that’s happening. This also can cause internal loss of support since Russian citizens can see the costs of this going up. They will know people who were sent to die on the front lines. They will see taxes go up and availability of goods go down. Once Russian citizens start to question and criticize the campaign, there could be a snowball effect that ends with Putin and his cronies having to make a choice between stopping the invasion or losing power. I don’t think Putin will ever stop, so the real choice will be desperate attacks (which could include nukes, triggering article 5 and effectively ending Russia) or a coup. Putin has checkmated himself whether he is aware of it yet or not. His best case scenario at this point is dying of natural causes in office and leaving that hard decision to his successor who will probably back down and be a pariah for it, saving Russia in the process.
Didn’t work. Only the western aggressor is drained, militarily and morally. The war is lost, Russia won.
Well it’s Russian infrastructure on Ukrainian land, who cares what it’s for?
It’s literally Russian land. The people voted to leave the fascist puppet state.
literally everyone who is not an imbecile