I am an Indian and I have become hyperaware of the people and the culture that surrounds me and I am beginning to see the flaws in it. One of the flaws that trouble me the MOST is how most Indians behave when they encounter any authority figure (mostly higher class or “higher” caste or the wealthy or the bureaucrat class).

When an average Indian walks into a Government office with a corrupt bureaucrat in it, he begins treating himself as an insect, he is way too afraid and he is way too submissive and slavish, this doesn’t end here however, if you meet someone of a higher social status than yourself you become slavish and submissive there too and this happens every time an authority figure is in the room and even with people who think very highly of themselves(at their homes, with their families etc.,) I dress well and look somewhat well so once I had a guy who is my father’s age call me sir and use language which is reserved for “the higher classes”. This is not ok! I wish he had a spine, I don’t want to be him when I grow up, but I know he didn’t choose to be that way, it’s the environment he was brought up in and not being aware of one’s own slavishness.

I am not blaming my people, but I do detest the culture which caused this. And don’t be fooled, I am not an observer, I (used to) do this too and I hate this

It’s like our bones melt and our brain switches off and we become in our own eyes the lowest form of life on earth. Probably justifiably because the education we have received is subpar (counter-productive) in most cases. And you can’t think highly of yourself if you are capable of doing anything productive, but it’s not just that, it happens with those people who are productive members of the society, but to a lesser extent.

I have heard many Southern Asian countries are like this in this aspect. So, I was wondering how you treat authority in your culture and if you thought it was healthy. I would be very much interested if your culture is similar to mine and what you think might have caused it.

And most importantly, how do you think I can get rid of this disgusting habit, is it even possible in India? (fellow Indians jump in here)

edit: Thanks to everyone who replies! :)

  • mesamune@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    American here. We mostly cuss at ours.

    In all seriousness, we generally treat people with respect but that’s about it. It’s heavily varries by person.

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    You are correct. This is indeed a thing (though typically when the authority figure is right in front of one’s face), but I have noticed it a lot less in zoomers. On a similar note, the Indian Police Act and, rather, law enforcement as a whole needs to be reformed and worked heavily upon so the laws sincerely get executed and implemented (maybe then the people won’t be as intimidated).

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      rather, law enforcement as a whole needs to be reformed and worked heavily upon so the laws sincerely get executed and implemented (maybe then the people won’t be as intimidated).

      it’s the culture, it won’t change even if it supposedly changed in the law.

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    Ain’t nobody laid on their death bed thinking they should have “respected” some clown more.

    These “authority figures” would not piss on you if you were on fire. So why give them any satisfaction? Same thing with wealthy worship. Why do people do it? It ain’t like they will give you money lol

    If you are in situation as such employment, jail house rules apply. Ain’t jack shit anyone can do about it. Best for them to know your name besides “that person can get X done well”

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    I’ve noticed the same thing from Indian colleagues. They rarely outwardly disagree and it’s very confusing to work that way. I don’t want a tiered workplace where some people are more equal than others. Let’s just speak plainly and politely, treat each other with respect, no matter where we’re from and what we look like.

    I feel like the British colonial influence has been horrible for India and Africa in general.

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      1. British colonialism bad.

      2. This goes far before the British. Before the British, there were the Mughals. This part of the indian culture is old and predates either of these two. The caste system has been around forever.

      Edit: Bit of clarity.

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        The caste system has been around forever

        Yeah, I guess we can trace a lot of this behavior to that. Good catch there. “Some people are more equal in others” even after the constitutional gave everyone “equal” rights.

        British colonialism bad.

        I don’t know! I see many of my rich friends desperately flocking to Britain and people in India being tribal as hell that I am beginning to think maybe British rules would have suited us better. i.e., I want more free-speech in this country, I want more freedoms and better legal system in this country. The legal system in UK is objectively better than ours in many ways, I won’t mind that tbch with you.

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      where some people are more equal than others

      Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.

      British colonial influence

      I am not sure how different India would have been without that. But I would rate British Colonial Influence with 1 stars, I would not recommend it if you are non-White or American.

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    As an American authority is hated and enforced. Our culture is highly competitive and authority focuses aren’t above it.