• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    At the moment it has a pretty low (~0) person to person infection rate.
    But, it does have a 56% mortality rate (Covid was between 3%-5%) so I don’t think we should be fucking around with our response to it.
    Viruses can mutate and that R value (person to person transmission rate) can shoot up after a mutation.
    I would much rather us have an “overblown” response than an inadequate response like we did with Covid. .

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      4 months ago

      Higher mortality rate generally means lower transmission since the infected don’t live long enough to pass it along. If it mutates to be less fatal then I’ll be more worried.

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        They tend to correlate but a virus can easily be both deadly and transmissive. R value is really the only thing to watch here, until a large population is sick we don’t really know the impact anyways.

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        In most species, bird flu is both highly infectious and very deadly. A disease being very infectious can make up for its lethality

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    So, one thing to consider is that “how bad it gets” can be directly related to how well people and governments prepare. For example, if the CDC starts work on having vaccines made and stockpiled now, they may be able to react quickly and decisively to any outbreaks as they happen and prevent them from growing to a pandemic level. If infections are kept to low levels and the CDC ultimately has a lot of left over vaccines, did it “over react”? It’s actually a hard question to answer, because it’s entirely possibly that the end result was a direct result of that stockpiling and rapid reaction, leading to some level of wastage. However, had those precautionary steps not been taken, shit would have hit the fan.

    We had something similar back with the Y2K Bug was being talked about. Companies lost their shit over it. But, when the date finally rolled over, it seemed to be a huge nothing-burger. Part of the reason it was such a nothing-burger was the fact that companies actually did a lot of work to validate and fix software before the date roll over. So, in retrospect, lots of people talk about the Y2K bug like it was all hype. But, had action not been taken ahead of time, it really would have caused a lot of problems.

    This is the perennial problem with proactive fixes, if they are done right, people won’t be sure you have done anything at all. So, it is often difficult to get people to prioritize future problems. Even when the cost to fix those problems now will be vastly less than waiting until the problem actually arrives.

    So no, I don’t think it’s “overblown” per se. It something that governments and health organizations should be tracking and should be working to have plans and resources available for. On a personal level, not much is changing. It’s not currently at a level that I feel I need to make major lifestyle changes to avoid. The CDC puts the risk as currently low, and has seen no cases of human to human transmission. If any of that changes, I’ll re-evaluate.

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    I never stopped my COVID routine so I’m not really doing anything different to prepare but I am at least a little prepared. Going to buy one of those emergency 5-gallon buckets of dehydrated food this time around though, like next time I’m at a bulk food not as shit hits the fan.

    I haven’t put much thought into if it is overblown because realistically I’d prefer to see a big fuss over nothing than to see people sit back with a beer while their neighbors die. So I’m not going to treat it like we’re overreacting I’m going to be pretty serious about things.

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    Already got a box of N95s and a stick with nails hammered into it to beat the next motherfucker that tries to accuse China of this one when it’s just plain, raw, yankee greed and shitty living qualities for the livestock they ‘raise’. Plus a healthy smattering of those same yankees being absolutely brickshittingly ignorant.

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    I’m not super worried, but I did buy a few extra groceries. We do not have the public trust in public health agencies to manage a pandemic. I still wear N95s at the store, I have more boosters than my entire social circle combined, and I don’t trust a damned thing the CDC says at this point. I “followed the science” and trust scientists. But I don’t trust the CDC and If I don’t, why would anybody else?

    I remember them telling us covid was low risk, that it would be contained, and not to panic. That masks didn’t work, that there was no reason to buy them. And that it wasn’t airborne despite evidence piling up for months. I remember the Surgeon General going on tv and telling us to wrap a t-shirt over our face as an effective mask. They took years to update their mask guidance, last I checked they still suggest surgical masks despite N95s being widely available and vastly more effective.

    I remember them turning down millions of tests from the WHO so they could release their own, only to release tests that did not work and had to be recalled. That costs us weeks when days mattered. I remember the FDA going after a scientist in Seattle who offered free covid tests against FDA policy, threatening any scientist who dared to offer free local covid testing when CDC had a backlog measured in weeks. In fact, I remember the CDC fumbling at basically every possible point in the pandemic’s trajectory from day 1 until present day where they release boosters right after the peak of infections, after everybody has already gone back to school and everybody’s gotten sick, and when the boosters do arrive not only are they late and meaningless, they are an entire strain behind.

    I remember them publishing “studies” with such poor scientific rigor that my 5th grade science project would blow them out of the water. One in particular the CDC used to prove masks work, which they absolutely do, and they went on a whole media tour touting this study, was a case study with two hairdressers. One hairdresser wore a mask and one didn’t. The one who wore masks didn’t infect any patients, while the maskless one did. Except this proved nothing at all because on average, most people are not infectious. Even if neither of them wore masks, it was a completely expected result. Absolute hot garbage science from the agency that is supposed to be the best at it in the world.

    Fuck 'em all, that entire agency needs to be replaced.

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    Nothing in particular that we didn’t already do for covid. I have various PPE and we already only leave the house once every couple weeks on average. The only two things I think I could prepare better are: more canned/frozen veg in case we need to stay in longer, and more farm supplies for the same reason (this is my first year actually farming in land (not in my parking space/balcony), so there’s a bit of a learning curve and I’m not good at it yet). We live in a very small town so health resources are scarce but, on the plus side, we live in a really small town and there aren’t many people.

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    Becoming increasingly clear that nothing good is ever going to happen again, so if it gets me it gets me. Long live our successor, the saiga antelope.

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      They have noses worthy of being our successor species. Something you’d see on the cover of a sci-fi novel called “Children of Earth” or something…1000013525

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    I think it’s good for early warning to reach the public. Ideally this would allow the public to support handling it post-haste. Realistically it probably will churn in the news, get a little worse, then depending on how/if it mutates, die off or go full blown and people will likely react similar to COVID. Maybe (and hopefully) a little more responsibly if the lethality stays high.

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    As someone who did my part with the social distancing, masks, and shots up to the 2nd booster, I genuinely just do not care any more. Let’s face it the worlds trending downwards now for whatever reason we want to blame it on. If the virus gets me that’s fine. I’ll probably not listen to any regulations if it ever got to it.