It seems as though we are going backwards. We were doing so well in realising that all human beings are worthy individuals with emotional and intellectual depth, yet now so many of us don’t seem to see any problem with society encouraging many to reduce themselves to sexual objects. How is this rationalised?
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In what way do you see embracing sexuality as contradictory to being a whole human? Can you give examples?
I dunno, in a lot of conversations amongst men it seems like women are simply thought of as sexual objects, with the rest largely forgotten. Does not seem very healthy to me.
I agree that doesn’t seem healthy. Misogyny is nothing new, though, and in your post you said people are reducing themselves to sexual objects but the example is people reducing others to sexual objects, which is not really the fault or necessarily the intention of the person being objectified
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Of course, but the entire purpose of pornography is kind of to reduce people to sexual objects, isn’t it?
Is it? Or is it to allow people to indulge in and express sexuality outside of a relationship? I don’t think it has a singular purpose of objectifying people. If people take it that way I think it’s more indicative of a problem with their attitude that they may need help to reframe.
Do violent shows or horror movies make you feel human life is worth less because it shows people getting hurt or murdered?
The thing is… Both with porn and movies… Is that shit happens. I see what you’re saying for “normal” people… But some people actually do that shit.
Whether its porn or crime.
Porn and media is the way people satiate that natural expression without hurting people, but some people go past the line and actually do it. Usually the people that fight against it publicly…
It feels like people only watch pornography in order to satisfy their sexual desires by viewing someone sexually from an external position, while people watch violent shows to feel the thrills of the person from an internal point of view.
It’s marketing. Emotion, sex, and religion are the best ways to sell and manipulate people.
It’s all so soulless. I don’t think it’s sexuality or porn that’s inherently bad, it’s the people who fake their genuine self for money that are bad. Although, like with anything, limits for the voyeurs are healthy too.
Sexual peccadillos [+ religion] have dethroned kings. Can’t threaten a person w/ revealing their bedroom secrets if no one gives af.
Same reason anything else is. It’s big money. Porn is a multi billion dollar industry.
As for why “extreme” porn is so “normalized” I think it’s more because it’s stigmatized ironically. Have you ever had an in person conversation about why there’s so much step family porn? No of course not because then both people would be acknowledging they watch porn for one. So the social factors that would guide things are totally absent.
Another question - you said things are going backwards. When do you feel that things were better, and what made that time practically better in terms of not objectifying people?
I am quite young, so most of my knowledge of the social conditions of the past comes from literature, which is of course a pretty bad source. But it really seems like it is much more normalised nowadays for men to view women as sexual objects.
