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    Recommendations and App Promotions sound an awful lot like ads to me. Showing me things I didn’t ask for that you wish to sell me…that’s called advertising and I don’t care what dumb name you call it, they’re still ads. Show me only what I actually want to see - the stuff I explicitly choose to pin to my personalized Start menu.

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    Microsoft: “We’re sorry, this is all just a misunderstanding. We thought you were too stupid to notice.”

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    It’s the first move to making it normalized. It’s the “toes in the water” stage of advertising in your OS.

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    Microsoft is dead to me.

    Maybe if after a disastrous enough reception of Windows 11 they might make a Windows 12 that actually cares about being more palatable to the users, like they did with Windows 7 following the disaster that was Vista.

    But I think they’ll most probably only move to meet us halfway like they did with Windows 10 following the other disaster that was 8. Where they replaced a major irritant with another and then slowly stacked more and more irritants with updates thereafter. They are too addicted to the revenue from data harvesting to give it up.

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    What’s a “real” ad? They use that term multiple times and I can’t imagine how it is different from a normal ad or if the adds that the start menu already had were somehow different from normal ads.

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      And then what? What’s going to replace it? As of right now there is no alternative that can do what windows can do. There are other operating systems that can do some of the stuff but not all of it.

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        What can windows as an operating system do that no other can do? Do they have magical scheduling?

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          The question is what can’t it do? Yall keep saying switch to Linux but why? Why would I leave windows if Linux isn’t offering anything better?

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            Why would I leave windows if Linux isn’t offering anything better?

            Because Linux offers an ad-free experience, whereas Windows offers a free ads experience.

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            Well, as operating systems go, they both accomplish pretty much the same thing: an interface for programs so that they get access to hardware resources. One thing that Linux does is that it supports many more architectures than what windows does.

            In windows, the UI is a part of the operating system so customization is a lot harder than what it is in Linux.

            These are the only things that I can think of that are directly tied to the operating systems, but I’m not the most knowledgeable on these things. I honestly wonder what makes windows better as an operating system, because I can’t find anything.

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            That’s not due to the operating system but rather the choice of those producing the program. The operating system simply provides an interface to the underlying hardware.

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              The OS provides services to the application, acting as a bridge between the application and the physical hardware. The entire point of an OS is to run applications, otherwise it would serve no purpose.

              If the app can run in Windows on the same hardware that Linux can, but the app can’t run in Linux, then the only difference is the OS.

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                Yes, but this is a design choice made by those who make the app, not a design choice made by those that make the operating system.

                If I make a screwdriver that isn’t compatible with any screws on the market, that is my poor design choice, not that of screw manufacturers.

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        That’s a nice generalization and all, but mostly just a lackluster cop-out that I’ve heard a million times. It’s not like windows is some high and mighty operating system which is the only thing capable of running some software because it’s so awesome. Linux is really good at a lot of things like gaming, security, data analytics, and continues to get better. Lots of money was put into developing windows and making it usable for most people. If more money was put towards the development of Linux for the purpose of <insert your generalized cop-out argument>, you’d have one less thing to bitch about.

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          Bro I can’t even load up most games on Linux so saying we should do away with windows is saying we just shouldn’t have video games anymore.

          Linux isn’t there yet and it’s not even close. When it is then I’ll switch but until then windows is just fine and isn’t the boogie man you weird Linux fan boys make it out to be.

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            1. I download Steam
            2. I download a game
            3. I activate proton with one click inside Steam
            4. I play

            Bro can’t be bother to make an extra click lmao

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            Which games? Have you tried proton? Lutris?

            People like you are lucky things like windows exist because otherwise technology would be totally inaccessible to you, and you’d be banging two rocks together in a cave somewhere.

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              People like me? You mean the majority of people on the planet?

              God forbid I just want to play a video game without having to learn the ins and outs of multiple operating systems while I spend half my time troubleshooting why things don’t work.

              Fuck me for wanting 1 part of my life to be easy I guess.

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                  Why do I need to try? I have absolutely no reason to ditch windows. What exactly can Linux do that windows can’t as far as gaming that requires me to switch?

                  I use my computer to browse the web and play video games and there is nothing about windows that makes that harder than it needs to be.

                  But yeah, keep being dicks to people on the internet while remaining anonymous because people don’t want to make their life worse by using your preferred OS.

                  The Linux community makes me not want to use Linux out of spite.

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    W11 is such a great example of how out-of-touch Microsoft’s management and shareholders are. Its market share is tiny compared to W10 and is actively decreasing and they think pulling stunts like this is going to be beneficial in some way. Like even if you follow the usual routine of enshittification, they’ve missed the entire part where they expand their userbase first before making things worse.

    MS needs a leadership shakeup so badly.